Welcome back to All Hands everyone a new podcast
looking to address the social and racial injustice,
mental health issues and gender inequality.
Black indigenous and people of color face
On the daily
count to 10 looks to explore these complex
topics and other appearance based discrimination people face
Joining us now to discuss Bree Hall artist,
content creator and host of count to 10 brie.
Thank you so much for joining us here on all hands.
Tell us a little bit more about the inspiration behind starting your podcast.
Absolutely. And thank you for having me first and foremost.
I started my podcast because during this past year or two I was having these really,
really deep
and informative conversations with both friends, family and colleagues.
And I was always saying I wish that someone could be a fly on the wall
and actually listen to these conversations from either
different backgrounds or similar backgrounds to feel that
they had a safe space and then all of a sudden I had that light bulb
moment where it was like I can actually
make that a tangible experience for many people.
So I think that was the real basis for starting this podcast.
I love that so much.
And you have a huge platform on YouTube, more than 700,000 subscribers.
Why did you think the podcasting was the best medium to move forward with?
Well I personally love listening to podcasts myself
and I know that you know everyone doesn't
always have the time to be um looking at their phone screen and things like that.
I know I love listening to podcasts when I'm maybe doing dishes or doing some
more tedious work around the house or just starting my day like with breakfast.
And it allowed me to just be able to be in comfort with people and
use our voices similar to how you would on a phone call with a friend.
And I feel that when you don't have all of the
lights in your face and it's a little bit more relaxed,
people really do open up as well.
So you get to hear more candid conversation
Defin. That's a good point. Also wondering what the meaning is behind the name.
Count to 10.
Yes. Okay.
So I know with podcasting that is one of the hardest things for
people when they're starting a show is what should I call this show?
And I knew that I wanted to address people that lived on the margins of society,
but I didn't know exactly
what name would encompass that.
And then one day I actually experienced a microaggression when I was at the mall
And I took a step back and I said, Oh my goodness, you know, rub my temples.
I said let me count to 10 because I didn't want
that moment to shift my energy.
And then I realized immediately in that moment I said that is the
title of the show because how many people that are living on the margins
of society or are minorities today have these experiences where we have to
step back and kind of try to stay calm in the face of adversity
wow,
it's such a beautiful inspiration for the title
and I think one that so many people can
relate to not wanting something to drain you
of your energy or completely shift your focus.
Um but because you mentioned microaggressions,
what are your tips for addressing them if and when they happen?
Yes.
So I believe especially after these last few years that um it is
important to delicately call them out in in the face of adversity.
Especially sometimes microaggressions come from people that we do
work with or we are in close proximity to.
So it can be a little bit of a tough experience
sometimes um reaching out to them and actually letting them know.
But I find that telling people one on one
and giving them the time space and opportunity,
especially people that are in your space,
is to try to correct the behavior is important.
However,
in the event that the microaggressions become too severe
or the person is not open to learning.
I personally believe in removing yourself from that space
and um you know reallocating your time to people that
will take time to understand you and your background
and how to basically respect your boundaries as well.
And bring in the first episode of the podcast.
You talk about the crown act which makes it
illegal to discriminate based on hairstyle and hair texture.
Why did you want this to be the focus of the first episode?
I wanted this to be the focus of the first
episode because I feel that's where my Youtube journey really,
really began.
I was going to college and I realized I didn't have a hair stylist,
I wasn't going to be able to reach anyone when I was in my freshman year,
and I said this just feels like a natural start
and pathway to the podcast and addressing deeper issues,
Because at the time of recording the podcast, over 37 states,
it was still legal to discriminate on the basis of natural hair and I just felt
like that was something that really needed to be brought up on a large platform.
Last question for you, I think so many excited for this season of your podcasts.
Are there any issues that were particularly difficult for you to cover on the
show that you still want people to know they should tune in for?
Absolutely.
And I feel that every episode,
um all of my guests felt this deep sense of catharsis after we finished taping.
I know we addressed some things like mental health and self care and how messy of a
process that can be just getting over the hump
of beginning your mental health journey as well,
and also we talk about human sexuality and intersectionality,
which is a huge part of a lot of people's lives, especially my own,
and I feel that getting really deep into those topics,
getting into childhood and and how these things impact us in
daily life as well as workplace microaggressions was a really,
really tough topic that I heard kind of
across the board from a lot of different guests
um is the obstacles that they faced in
pursuing their dreams and how they overcame those.
It sounds really groundbreaking.
And we're looking forward to listening bree hall artist,
content creator and host of count to 10.
You can check out the podcast every Tuesday on Apple Spotify or anywhere else.
You get your podcast. Thanks so much for joining us.