Drew and Jonathan, you guys spend so much time together.
You're so busy from the television shows to your other businesses that you're doing
to nonprofit work, you have your hands and everything, including a new website.
So the big question is,
do you like each other at all?
It's
so
sick
of that.
It's people even laugh at CG Magic. There's actually only one of us.
We just make it look like there are 50 of us.
How do you guys get along so well? For so long. It's so simple.
We have a No BS policy.
That's the big thing for us. So we, a long time ago, we decided two things.
One, we realized we were constantly bickering about how to get something done,
what process to take.
We realized there's a million ways to do something as
long as the end resolved with what we want.
It doesn't matter about the path and so we
will divide and conquer now and all that stuff.
And then the other thing is why let some
small build up into something more than it needs to be, get it out now.
So we have a no BS policy to get it out. Yeah.
I mean, communication is the big thing with anybody,
whether it's relationships or work,
you want to make sure that you don't let those little things add up.
So, if you just be very clear,
I'm very clear and I am Linda, my wife makes fun of me sometimes because she's like,
you realize that
nobody else communicates like Jonathan and you, right,
like everybody else kind of sugar coats things a little bit.
I'm like, no, that's the problem. If everyone was more honest, then
we'd be a happier place and it's a lot faster. You get to the point.
So what lanes do each of you drive in? Did you designate different things?
The big thing within our company is the big thing, uh
production. That's sort of my background of forte.
I came from acting and directing and I really love that.
So I, I lead a lot of our new development, we produce 16 the series.
Um So we're one of the largest unscripted producers in the country.
And then on the product side, Jonathan,
he leads a lot with our new development of products and some of our, our partners,
we manufacture about 10.5 1000 products.
And so everything from furniture to rugs to table top glass or you name it.
And so
what we do is this, it's like this perpetual motion machine.
It, you know, all run on something Drew will run.
In fact, a lot of our,
our team or our partners know that if they cc both of us and only one of them responds,
that means that brother's running with that project
and we've built a great team.
I mean, we could not do what we do if we didn't learn to stop micromanaging,
take a step back, bring in really amazing people that can help us grow.
I'm still learning not micromanage but better
and
great tips for any business.
All you got to let some things go and let people do their job.
Even if it's not done 100% the way I would do it,
at
least if it's, if it's 80% 85% it's still getting done. And that just lets
us just talking about that because so nothing is more frustrating to me than
we'll have a strategy.
We're sitting down, we're talking about something
and then a year later we're sitting down talking
about the exact same thing and nothing's happened.
You would be so much better off doing something that's maybe only 70% effective,
but you got it done and you made that headway.
So that a year from now you're already out of the game. I love that. OK?
So what is the most difficult part about working with family?
Because not everybody can work with their family?
Well, I was gonna say, yeah,
11 good business tip is just have a twin because then
you can double up on all the work without the stress.
But if you can't do that, I mean, I think the hard thing for me is
um
whether it's with Jonathan or whether it's with
Linda is shutting off the work brain.
I love to work. Uh And so I really love what I do.
I had to tell him so many times don't email employees in the
middle of the night because they'll get the email and they'll respond.
Even if you say, don't worry about responding until Monday or something like that,
they'll still do it because they don't want to look like they're,
they're not being proactive.
And so I, I've been, I'm still t myself,
that sort of thing like shut down because with
my robotic ways of loving what I've been working,
it's not for everybody.
And I, I think it's so important too because obviously, you know,
Drew's wife Linda is incredible and, and Zoe
and Linda and Drew and me, we like to hang out as a group,
but it's important to have the time away from each other too.
So we enjoy our family time,
our separate time and then when we're filming together when we're doing this.
So
events together, it's nice to have, you know, that reprieve in between.
And you just mentioned Zoe,
you just got engaged to the actress Zoe
de
Chanel
Revolution.
Why don't we get the engagement? It's
not fair,
not
fair. You can wear
it. So is she gonna be involved in the family business.
I mean, she's been on a celebrity iou, I mean, yes, in some capacities.
And she's also a huge,
she's actually found the last five properties that we had by the purchase
or she should be a real estate agent. Really? She knows the L A market born and raised.
Right. It should bring more humor to the show
and, you know,
maybe there's a branch off because both Linda and Zoe left to cook and bake
much better than we are. So maybe that's a whole, there's
a side that we have brought
it.
There you go. All done at the same time.
So we actually did
Linda and I for a little while. It was part of our um at
home with a podcast and youtube channel, a part of what we're building,
it was called Build and Bake.
And so it was us crafting for the holidays and then baking something.
Maybe we should bring that back.
But with a full size house, well, the holidays are coming up.
How do you guys plan on spending it?
There's gonna be caroling, there's gonna be amazing food.
Are you doing
the singing?
I mean,
are you
judging? No, not at all.
Favorite song then
Crept.
I love, you
know, Bing Crosby was
Michael
Buble
or Bing Crosby. I mean, you can't go wrong Michael's
whole holiday album in
Fire. If you ask him, I
thought him everything he knows about singing
a
little sample then
I think I need to correct myself. She and him's holiday album.
Yeah.
It actually is one of the greatest it is.
I've been to the concert.
You want some singing sample. So we always, we have one song of those. Go to
Joy to the world. The Lord has come later.
Receive
her.
Boom.
We leave the rest to
the
booze.
We
used to,
it's uh it's
not as weird as if we were to do. Like maybe it's cold out
there,
maybe it's cold outside.
So let's talk about the two newest shows you guys have coming out.
This is pretty exciting
for 2024. Don't hate your house.
I mean,
there's so many people that are living in a house that they're at their wits end,
they've overspend, they don't know what to do.
A lot of people think they have to move because their house is a dead end.
It's not the case.
And so we're sort of come,
we're coming in with these families and help
them take this dire situation that they're in
for a lot of them think financially they've, they've ruined themselves
and we show them a path to actually enjoying their home.
The stakes are higher, the nerves and the stress are,
are at the boiling point and it's pretty incredible.
And then our other show backed by the bros.
So many people want to become real estate investors,
they want to get into real estate.
They don't really know what they're doing. They dive in and realize
they got it over their head. They're gonna lose everything.
So we're coming in,
whether it's someone who was trying to convert their garage to an
ad U for rental income or someone who bought a commercial building.
We're going in,
we're meeting all of these people and we're deciding who
we want it back and we're actually taking our resources,
our crews, our products and we're getting it.
And the fun thing there too is a lot of these people, you know,
some of them have experience in real estate.
So sometimes I think, you know, what are we going to teach them?
We've been doing this for 25 years. But when we get in there, we just ask questions.
They are just simple questions that we would automatically
think about when we get into these investments.
They haven't even thought of it.
All these people,
they just jump in without thinking through the process and organizing themselves.
So it's so funny. The last episode, we were just filming of, of
uh backed by the pros,
the person who's never done an investment before
has been making so many bad decisions.
And he says to us when I'm filming with him, he's like, well, you know,
um my experience says that this is the way we should be doing it. But,
and I was like,
what experience are you talking about?
That's probably one of the worst things for
people who are new in the business into investing
that they are overconfident about their ability.
You need to recognize where you have a lack
of knowledge and you need to rely on somebody
who knows what they're talking about because there's no
shortage of idiots who will give you advice,
who shouldn't have any place giving you advice,
wants us to come and renovate his house.
Yeah.
Yeah, I have tons of projects that are just
more than happy to have kids. They're fun. They're cute.
They make great television. Please
let me
know. I
got
you have more great tips on your website as well. The new website.com
dot
com
for us, the big thing there, you know, we've been renovating house for 25 years.
We've had the shows for almost 15 years now and
there,
there are a lot of little things and big things
that can help people save on spending in the room
long way or helping them get organized ahead of the time.
So the editorial we have on Drew and jonathan.com behind the scenes of our shows.
It's so much great information and it's entertaining.
There's something for everybody to walk away from the
website that they can take to improve their home and
we can keep up to date on all the new projects you have coming out next year as well.
All the new
2000 shows we're working on. So,
you know that at this point,
I like to think that I'm moving into a more relaxed schedule,
but I feel like there are so many things we want to do.
Um, we're not slowing down any time soon.
I agree.
At least
slow down enough to get married
and then
ramp
back up
that,
that
party. So,
keep
up the great work. Thank you so much for enjoying it.
Shannon.