>> WELCOME BACK TO CHEDDAR
EVERYONE SENATORS ARE CALLING
BIG TECH CEOS BACK TO CAPITOL
HILL
TO TESTIFY. THE SENATE COMMERCE
COMMITTEE VOTING TO SUBPOENA
FACEBOOK'S MARK ZUCKERBERG
TWITTER'S JACK DORSEY AND
GOOGLE SUNDAR PICHAI THE ISSUE
AT THE CENTER OF THIS IS
SECTION 2 30 OF THE
COMMUNICATIONS
DECENCY ACT WHICH PROVIDES A
LIABILITY SHIELD FOR ONLINE
PLATFORMS WHEN IT COMES TO
USERS POST. NOW MANY LAWMAKERS
ARE NOW CALLING FOR BIG
CHANGES TO THE SYSTEM JOINING
US NOW IS MORGAN WRIGHT CHIEF
SECURITY ADVISER AT SANTA NO
ONE MORGAN GOOD TO HAVE YOU
HERE WITH US ON THE DAY WHAT DO
YOU THINK THAT WE CAN EXPECT TO
SEE FROM THIS TESTIMONY.
>> I'D WRITE A ACTUALLY WHAT
I EXPECT TO SEE IS MORE OF WHAT
WE HAD THE LAST TIME THEY TRIED
TO HAUL ALL THE TECH PEOPLE IN
WHICH IS CONGRESS DOES NOT HAVE
A FIRM UNDERSTANDING OF HOW
SOCIAL MEDIA WORKS ABOUT HOW
BIG THAT WORKS WHEN YOU'VE GOT
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ASKING
FACEBOOK BALL IF IT'S FREE HOW
DO YOU
MAKE MONEY WE'RE NOT
UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT'S APP
IS ENCRYPTED INTO AND THERE'S
NO WAY TO PUT ADS INSIDE
OF THAT. I THINK THE ISSUE IS
LESS WITH TECH IT SWEET WHETHER
OR NOT THE POLICYMAKERS
UNDERSTAND US ENOUGH TO ASK THE
RIGHT QUESTIONS IN ORDER
TO CREATE THE LAWS THE POLICIES
AND THE REGULATIONS THAT
THEY'RE ATTEMPTING
TO DO.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT WE'LL SEE
THAT CHANGE IN QUESTIONING FROM
THE SENATE COMMITTEE VERSUS
WHAT WE SAW FROM CONGRESSIONAL
MEMBERS.
>> IT'S HARD TO SAY YOU KNOW
ONE OF THE LAST TIMES THERE WAS
THERE WAS EQUAL AMOUNTS OF
CONFUSION ON WHETHER IT WAS THE
HOUSE OR THE SENATE HAVING
TESTIFIED BEFORE
CONGRESS BEFORE YOU KNOW I
UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE A LOT
OF ISSUES TO DEAL
WITH BUT BUT THIS IS HUGE AND
THE ONE THING ABOUT IT IF
THERE'S ONE THING THAT HAS
PROVIDE A COMMON BOND BETWEEN
THE 2 PARTIES, IT'S EVERYBODY
WANTS TO BEAT UP BIG TECH BUT
FOR DIFFERENT
REASONS SO I THINK THAT WILL BE
POINTED I THINK THEY'LL BE SOME
MORE QUESTIONS BECAUSE REALLY
THE ISSUE OF WHETHER IT'S
TECHNICALLY NOT CENSORSHIP BUT
WHETHER OR NOT YOU KNOW YOU
RESTRICT SOME POSTS AND
ALLOW OTHERS ULTIMATELY AT THE
END OF THE DAY THE CONSUMERS
HAVE TO ASK IS
DO WE WHO DO WE WANT TELLING US
WHAT IT IS WE GET TO HEAR IN C
IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS A BIG
TECH OR IS IT A BLEND OF BOTH.
>> AND SO WHAT ARE THE CHANGES
THAT COULD IMPACT FACEBOOK
GOOGLE AND TWITTER AS A RESULT
OF THIS.
>> YOU KNOW IT USED TO BE IT
YEARS AGO I RAN MICROSOFT'S
ANTI-PIRACY PROGRAM FOR THEM
ONLINE 3RD PARTIES WHO ARE NOT
LIABLE FOR THE HOSTING OF
PIRATED SOFTWARE IN LESS YOU
TOLD THEM ONCE THEY BECAME
AWARE. THEY HAD A DUTY AND AN
OBLIGATION NOW WHAT WE'RE
ASKING IS FOR FACEBOOK TWITTER
GOOGLE YOU KNOW INTEREST
YOU KNOW YOU NAME YOUR YOUR
PLATFORM OF CHOICE, YOU KNOW
INSTAGRAM THEY NEED TO BE
PROACTIVE AND ACTUALLY SEARCH
OUT SOME OF
THIS CONTENT I DON'T KNOW I
DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WILL GET TO
THE POINT WHERE THEY CAN SAY
WELL YOU'RE BEING FAIR BETWEEN
DEMOCRATS AND
REPUBLICANS OR THIS POLITICAL
VIEW OR THIS
SOCIAL VIEW. THIS IS A VERY
SLIPPERY SLOPE. I DON'T SEE ANY
GOOD WAY TO COME UP WITH A
POLICY THAT'S GOING TO PLEASE
EVERYBODY IF YOU'VE EQUALLY
ANGERED ENOUGH PEOPLE
ON BOTH SIDES THEN I THINK
YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT POLICY
PROBABLY AND SO WHEN IT COMES
TO TECH OF COURSE THIS WASN'T A
TOPIC ON
THE DEBATES.
>> BETWEEN FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND CURRENT
PRESIDENT
DONALD TRUMP ON TUESDAY,
HOWEVER, THIS IS A TOPIC THAT
HAS BEEN DISCUSSED
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE AND
SO WE DO EXPECT THAT WE'LL HEAR
MORE MORE FROM THE SENATE
COMMITTEES EVEN AFTER WILL
THERE BE SOME SORT OF KIND OF I
DON'T WANT TO SAY A VICTORY LAP
THAT THEY TAKE BECAUSE THEY
ARE BEING FROM ONE BIG TECH BUT
WHAT IS THE SENTIMENT THAT
THEY'RE TRYING TO DRIVE HOME.
EVEN AMONG POTENTIAL VOTERS
RIGHT NOW.
>> YOU KNOW I THINK WHAT
THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAYBE
AVOID THEY DON'T WANT TO GET
INTO THE REPEAT OF 2016 TO WORK
THE RUSSIANS AND THE INTERNET
RESEARCH AGENCY AN EXTENSION
ACTUALLY OF THE
RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT DID SUCH AN
EFFECTIVE JOB WITH A SMALL
AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND A SMALL
AMOUNT PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY
CREATE DIVISION CAUSE POLITICAL
ISSUES YOU KNOW IN IN FIGHTING,
SO I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO
AVOID THAT. BUT AT THE SAME
TIME AS YOU KNOW THERE IS NO
EASY WAY TO BALANCE FREE SPEECH
AND BIG TECH AT THE
SAME TIME. IT'S GOING TO BE
CHALLENGING. I DON'T THINK
YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANYTHING
OUT OF THESE HEARINGS OTHER
THEN IT'S REMEMBER IT'S RIGHT
BEFORE AN ELECTION EVERY PARTY
WANTS TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE
MANY OF THESE AND
YOU KNOW A 3RD OF THE SENATORS
RUNNING FOR REELECTION SO A 3RD
OF THEM PROBABLY ON THESE
PANELS WILL BE DOING SOMETHING
TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE
INITIATIVES THAT THEY'RE DOING
BECAUSE IT'S A CAMPAIGN ISSUE
FOR THEM SO YOU KNOW QUITE
FRANKLY I GET A LITTLE JOHN IS
WHEN I SEE THESE ISSUES
HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE AN
ELECTION WHERE WAS THIS 2 YEARS
AGO OR 3 YEARS AGO.
WHY WORRY ADDRESSING IT THEN
AND NOT A WEEK BEFORE IN OR
MONTHS BEFORE
AN ELECTION.
>> RIGHT WELL BECAUSE NOW IS
WHEN ALL OF THE CHANGES,
ESPECIALLY TO THE ADVERTISING
POLICIES ON
THOSE PLATFORMS ARE BEING PUT
INTO PLACE AND SO AS IT RELATES
TO USER GENERATED
CONTENT VS ADVERTISED AND PAID
CONTENT ON THESE PLATFORMS HOW
WILL THAT COME UP IN
CONVERSATION.
>> YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE
I GUARANTEE YOU SOMEBODY AND IT
DEPENDS ON WHOSE OX IS BEING
GORED BUT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO
SAY HEY OF YOUR ADS
FAVOR ONE ALREADY OVER THE
OTHER OR THEY'RE GOING TO SAY
HEY YOU ARE UNFAIRLY
RESTRICTING THEY'RE GOING TO
LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF STATE
ACTORS LIKE RUSSIA LIKE
CHINA POTENTIALLY OR THE
INFLUENCING THE ELECTIONS
THROUGH ADS IS THERE ENOUGH
TRANSPARENCY IN WHERE THE
DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM.
YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE GONE
SO FAR AS TO CAN TAKE AS
COMPLETELY OFF OF THEIR
PLATFORM. OTHERS WILL SAY WE'RE
GOING TO RESTRICT IT.
YOU KNOW JUST A WEEK BEFORE THE
ELECTION YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE
SOME MODERATION. BUT AGAIN I
THINK COMES BACK TO AGAIN IT'S
NOT ABOUT TECH IT'S ABOUT
POLICY AND DO WE HAVE THE
PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND TECH
ENOUGH TO CRAFT A POLICY IS TO
SAY THAT EVERYBODY IS GETTING A
FAIR DEAL
WHEN WE START LOOKING AT HOW DO
WE REGULATE POLITICAL SPEECH
THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST
ISSUES THAT WAS DECIDED IN THE
SUPREME COURT. WHAT CONSTITUTES
FREE SPEECH IN TERMS OF
POLITICS. SO YOU KNOW I WISH I
HAD THE ANSWER BECAUSE I'D BE A
HECK OF A LOT RICHER THAN I AM
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I HAVE ALL OF
THIS STUFF FIGURED OUT I JUST
DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY
NOBODY'S GOING TO COME OUT A
WINNER OUT OF THIS EXCEPT
POTENTIALLY MAYBE BIG TECH
BECAUSE THERE WILL BE CONFUSION
AND NOBODY'S GOING TO KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT TO DO
WITH THEM.
>> AND THEN JUST VERY QUICKLY
HERE THIS OFTEN OPENS UP
CONVERSATION MORE BROADLY EVEN
OVERSEAS. THE EUROPEAN UNION
COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
CONVERSATION AND SAY HEY IT'S A
HAPP'S WE ALSO NEED TO BRING
THESE COMPANIES IN
FOR QUESTIONING. DO YOU EXPECT
ADDITIONAL ACTION EVEN OUTSIDE
OF THE U.S. AS A RESULT OF
THIS.
>> OH ABSOLUTELY I MEAN APPLE
RIGHT NOW IS FIGHTING A
15 BILLION YOU KNOW TAX
LIABILITY A GOOGLE HAS BEEN
SUED YOU KNOWING THAT THE
GERMAN
YOU'VE GOT GDPR TO OPEN UP A
WHOLE NEW RAFT OF THINGS TO
LOOK
AT SO. YEAH, THIS IS NOT THE
THIS IS NOT THE END OF THIS
THIS IS SIMPLY THE BEGINNING
AND THIS IS GOING TO GO