IS ROGER CHENG HEAD OF CNN
NEWS. ROGER GREAT TO HAVE YOU
AND LET'S JUST START WITH THE
BASIC HOW WOULD THESE WHAT ARE
THE ONES BEING DEVELOPED LOOK
LIKE.
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND
IT'S NOT ACTUALLY THE CASE OF
COURSE IM PARTLY BECAUSE THERE
ARE SO
MANY DIFFERENT. FOLKS DIFFERENT
COUNTRIES ALL OPTING TO CREATE
THERE OWN VERSION OF THE
VACCINE PASSPORT. PRIMARILY
THIS
WOULD WORK.
>> AS A QR CODE OR ON YOUR
BASICALLY YOU'D BE ABLE TO
PRESENT THIS YEAR PHONE PRESENT
THIS AT THE AT THE AIRPORT OF.
>> FOR FOR APPROVAL TO
GO TRAVEL. THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY
A LOT
OF COFFEE.
>> PATIENTS AS I MENTIONED SO
MANY DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND
COMPANIES WORKING ON
DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS. THE ISSUE
OF INTEROPERABILITY OF FLARES
UP AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT.
>> OR HOW.
>> THIS WILL ALL BE IMPLEMENTED
WHETHER OR NOT THESE DIFFERENT
SYSTEMS ARE OFTEN WORK
TOGETHER.
>> RIGHT AND ON THAT NOTE IT
WOULD SEEM LOGICAL THAT THE
U.S. GOVERNMENT IT LEAST OVER
SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
BUT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT NOT
NECESSARILY LOOKING TO TAKE
THIS ON RIGHT.
>> THAT'S CORRECT THAT THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT HAS
BASICALLY BACK.
>> OFF ON MAKING A PUSH FOR
MAKING IT A MANDATE A
REQUIREMENT TO TO HAVE A
VACCINE PASSPORT AND AS YOU
KNOW IT'S IT'S BECOME A BIT OF
A PARTISAN ISSUE OF A
CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE RIGHT
NOW SO. AT LEAST HERE IN THE
U.S. THAT IT KIND OF BACKED
OFF THAT THE IN THE EU YOU KNOW
THEY PRESENTED THE PLANS FOR A
GREEN PASS WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY
A VACCINE PASSPORT.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY
A VACCINATION INCLUDES FOLKS
WHO HAVE A NEGATIVE COVID TEST
AS WELL GET
LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS OF
PURSUING THIS IDEA OF
COURSE IS CHINA CREATE SOME
SORT OF SYSTEM THAT ALLOW FOLKS
TO TRAVEL MORE FREELY THAN THEY
HAVE IN THE PAST. SO OF COURSE
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
TECH NOW.
>> THE THERE'S GOING TO BE
SECURITY CONCERNS HOW ARE THESE
BEING ADDRESSED.
>> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE
BIG CONCERNS THAT FOLKS HAVE IN
GENERAL IS HOW IS THE STATE OF
BEING SECURED BECAUSE THIS THIS
IS TIED WITH PERSONAL
INFORMATION PLUS THE MEDICAL
INFORMATION SO THERE'S AN EXTRA
LAYER SENSITIVITY. I AT WORKING
WITH THE WORLD HEALTH
ORGANIZATION TO CREATE A SAFE
APP. YOU KNOW FRANK IS TRYING
TO TIE INTO ITS CORONAVIRUS AT
AND SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT
APPROACHES TO THIS BUT I THINK.
THE FACT THAT IT DOES INCLUDE
SENSITIVE WHY THERE
ARE FOLKS IT PUT IN THE PUBLIC
WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT YOU
KNOW THE USE OF A WIDESPREAD
VACCINE PASSPORT.
>> AND WHAT ABOUT THE ISSUES
ARE ABOUT A DISABILITY NOT
EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO
A SMARTPHONE OR PERHAPS EVEN A
COMPUTER TO UPLOAD THIS TYPE OF
INFORMATION SO HOW IS THAT
BEING ADDRESSED.
>> THAT THAT IS A HUGE CONCERN
THAT THE FACT THAT DATE LEAGUE
HE SAID NO ONE HAS A SMARTPHONE
NOT
EVERYONE HAS COULD PULL THIS UP
AS
THERE OUR FOLKS WHO ARE PUSHING
FOR ADVOCATING FOR YOU A
PHYSICAL VERSION WHICH WOULD
FRANKLY BE SIMILAR TO THE KINDS
OF VACCINE PASSPORTS WE ALREADY
HAVE FOR THINGS LIKE POLIO AND
FOR YELLOW
FEVER, THESE THESE WERE ALREADY
IN PLACE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE
HERE IS BECAUSE
THE CORONAVIRUS IT'S SO
WIDESPREAD AND TOUCHES
EVERYONE'S LIFE THAT THIS THIS
EXPONENTIALLY WELL COMPLICATED
BECAUSE IT AFFECTS EVERYONE BUT
YOU'RE RIGHT THERE OUT THERE
ISSUES AND CONCERNS THAT THE
VACCINE PASSPORTS WILL ALLOW
FOR DISCRIMINATION OF FOLKS WHO
DON'T HAVE VACCINE OR FOLKS
FROM COUNTRIES WHO DON'T
HAVE AXE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO
AS MUCH AS ME THAT'S VACCINES.
AS SOME OF THE RICHARD CUPP
COUNTRIES SO IT'S THERE ARE A
LOT OF ISSUES AND
THAT'S WHY IT'S IT'S KIND OF
THERE ARE A LOT OF
COMPLICATIONS THAT ALLOW FOLKS
WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
ROLE LOT OF THESE THINGS.
>> SO GIVEN ALL OF THAT
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THAT THE
FUTURE LOOKS LIKE IN ABOUT 6
MONTHS FROM NOW NOW WHAT DO YOU
EXPECT THAT MOST AMERICANS ARE
THE WALKING AROUND WITH A
SMARTPHONE WITH AN APP ON
THEIR SMARTPHONE THEY SAID THAT
THEIR VACCINATED AS A WAY TO
GET INTO CERTAIN VENUES OR EVEN
RESTAURANTS OR DO YOU THINK
THAT JUST WITH ALL THE PUSHBACK
BUT THIS ISN'T REALLY GONNA
EVEN PLAY OUT AND THEY DON'T
ISRAEL THEY THEY HAVE SOMETHING
LIKE THIS AND PEOPLE ARE USING
IT BUT IT OR THEY'RE JUST TOO
MANY ROADBLOCKS FOR A VACCINE
PASSPORT HERE IN THE U.S..
I THINK IT'LL TAKE A WHILE FOR
THIS TO SETTLE OUT.
>> BUT YOU KNOW OVER THE NEXT
SEVERAL MONTHS I THINK WE
WILL SEE CERTAIN FRAGMENTED
ROLL OUT WHETHER IT'S
INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES OR
VENUES THAT. THAT WILL REQUIRE
SOME SORT OF PROOF OF
VACCINATION I DON'T KNOW IF
THERE'S GOING TO BE A THING
AS WIDESPREAD. YOU KNOW HAS
SERVED A GLOBAL SYSTEM IN PLACE
OR YOU KNOW OF AT LEAST IN
THE U.S.. A NATIONAL SYSTEM IN
PLACE TO KEEP IN MIND, YOU KNOW
COUNTRIES LIKE THE UK, THEY
TRIED ROLL OUT A NATIONAL ISSUE
WHY
CONTACT TRACING PROGRAM AND A
LOT OF THOSE PROGRAMS CAN FELL
APART BECAUSE OF DISTRUST
BECAUSE OF CONCERNS ABOUT
PRIVATE DATA AND SO.
AND THAT IS GOING TO LAST
STRUGGLE BUT YOU WILL SEE SOME
INSTANCES OF YOU KNOW
REQUIREMEN