>> I WELCOME BACK EVERYONE
CHEDDAR POLITICS FORMER
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP FACING
INCREASING LEGAL SCRUTINY OF
THAT OVER THE 20 20 ELECTION IN
THE KEY BATTLEGROUND STATE OF
GEORGIA NOW THE ISSUE
OF PLAY IS OVER HIS ATTEMPT TO
SWAY THE ELECTION RESULTS IN
THAT STATE TO JOINING US NOW
CHRIS PANETTA, SENIOR POLITICAL
REPORTER OVER AT INSIDER GRACE
GREAT TO SEE YOU
AS ALWAYS SO THIS ALL OF COURSE
STEMS FROM THAT INFAMOUS PHONE
CALL THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAD
WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE
BRAD RAFFENSPERGER SO WHAT
POTENTIAL TROUBLE CRIMES OF THE
FORMER PRESIDENT MAY BE CHARGED
WITH HERE.
>> RELATED TO THE
RAFFENSPERGERS TRUMP COULD FACE
CRIMINAL LIABILITY IN AREAS,
INCLUDING REAL SOLICIT FUSION
TO COMMIT
ELECTION FRAUD. INTERFERENCE
WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF
ELECTION DUTIES HINDERING
RAFFENSPERGER'S OFFICIAL DUTIES
AS THE SECRETARY OF STATE IN
GEORGIA AND OTHER FORMS OF
CRIMINAL SOLICITATION. THAT'S
ACCORDING TO A RECENT REPORT
FROM THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTE
ALSO CONCLUDED THAT HE COULD
FACE MAYBE SOME OTHER MINOR
THIS KIND OF THERE CHARGES AND
EVEN IF IT GOT TO THAT POINT
EVEN SOME TO SHOW LIABILITY
AROUND RACKETEERING. THE STATE
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, LARGER
CONSPIRACY SO GREAT, I GUESS
I MEAN.
>> WE'VE ALL HEARD THE AUDIO
TAPE, WE KNOW THAT THIS WAS
UNPRECEDENTED FOR A PRESIDENT
TO EVER MAKE A PHONE CALL LIKE
THIS. BUT AS IS
THE CASE HE'S SOLID HERE FOR
PROSECUTORS TO ACTUALLY FILE
CHARGES HERE.
>> THAT'S YOU KNOW THE
MILLION-DOLLAR QUESTION AND
THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT
NECESSARILY ILLEGAL TO ACT
INNAPPROPRIATELY OR ACT IN WAYS
THAT MIGHT UNDERMINE THE
DEMOCRATIC PROCESS THAT IT
DOESN'T NECESSARILY
MAKE IT AND ESPECIALLY WHEN
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR
STATIONS BETWEEN POLITICIANS
EVEN YOU THINK THE CONTENT OF
WHAT TRUMP WAS SAYING WAS
FACTUALLY LONG FOR WHICH IT WAS
OTHERWISE
AND SEE IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY
RISE TO THE LEVEL OF CRIME I
THINK THAT'S WHY THIS
INVESTIGATION OR THE FULTON
COUNTY DA'S OFFICE TO BRING
CHARGES COST TO BE ABSOLUTELY
AIRTIGHT THEIR CASE BECAUSE
IT'S A HIGH BAR. I'M TALKING
ABOUT BRINGING CHARGES OF
HER OWN.
>> YEAH EXACTLY AND ALSO
POTENTIALLY A FUTURE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AGAIN
ALSO AS WELL AND LET'S JUST SAY
HYPOTHETICALLY GRACE, THE
FORMER PRESIDENT IS
CHARGED HERE DOES THAT IN DOES
THAT DOES THAT HURT HIS CHANCES
IN OF RUNNING, YOU KNOW
POTENTIALLY IN 2024 IF CHARGES
DO COME HERE.
>> OH ABSOLUTELY I MEAN
THINKING REALISTICALLY IT.
CHARGES ARE BROUGHT THIS WOULD
NOT BE A CASE THAT
RESULTS EASILY WOULD OBVIOUSLY
HAVE HIS LAWYERS FILING ALL
KINDS OF MOTIONS I THINK THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT COULD REALLY
DRY OUT FOR A LONG TIME, BUT IT
DEFINITELY DOESN'T HELP
FOR TRUMP TO BE UNDER THE LEGAL
CLOUD OR LEADING TO THE LAST
ELECTION EVEN IF
HIS OWN VOTERS MAY NOT CARE AS
MUCH AND THEY NEED TO FUND ITS
WHICH I'M LIKE WHAT THE
MUELLER PROBE IS STILL YOU KNOW
BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPEDIMENT IF
YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE FIGHTING
THESE CHARGES AND
DEALING WORKOUTS.
>> THE OTHER THING I FIND TO BE
SO INTERESTING GRACE US IS
BECAUSE THE FORMER PERCENT
CONTINUE TO STILL QUESTION THE
LEGITIMACY OF THE ELECTION
CONTINUES TO STILL TALK ABOUT
THE ELECTION RESULT OF THESE
AUDITS AND A BUNCH OF OTHER
DIFFERENT STATES IT SEEMS LIKE
HE'S DOUBLING DOWN STILL AND I
FIND IT INTERESTING BECAUSE
YOU'RE SEEING REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATES ALSO SORT OF TAKE
THAT UP WAS AS ALMOST AN ISSUE
IN THE NEXT COMING MIDTERMS
ALSO.
>> 2020 IS GOING TO BE ON THE
BALLOT NEXT YEAR IN
2022. IT IS BECOMING A LITMUS
TEST FOR THE CANDIDATES THAT
SOMETHING DOOR SAYS FOR THEM TO
BACK THESE FALSE CLAIMS OF
ELECTION FRAUD AND ALSO IT IT
YOU KNOW NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO
BE SUCH A HUGE TEST
ALMOST SORT OF A PREVIEW OF
WHAT WE MIGHT SEE IN THE NEXT
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WITH ALL
THESE CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR
OFFICE WERE BACKING. THESE
OF THE 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN
FROM TRUMP AND THOSE ARE PEOPLE
HOLD
YOUR POWER IN DETERMINING YOU
KNOW THE WHAT HAPPENS THE NEXT
TIME THAT OFFICIALS ROB
REFERENCED BIGGER. IT'S
PRESSURE TO THE NEXT TIME A
TRUMP-LIKE FIGURE TRIES TO
RETURN ELECTION RESULTS WERE
REALLY COULDN'T BE MORE
CONSEQUENTIAL BUT THE IS THERE.
>> THE EVIDENCE I DON'T KNOW IF
THIS IS IN POLLING THAT SHOWS
THAT THIS ACTUALLY MOTIVATE
REPUBLICAN VOTERS TO GO TO THE
POLLS AND I'M SAYING
THAT BECAUSE WHEN DONALD TRUMP
LOST THE ELECTION DURING THE
GEORGIA RUNOFF ELECTIONS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE
SAYING HIS CONSTANT TALK ABOUT
THE BALLOTS BEING RIGGED THE
ELECTION
BEING RIGGED COST THEM THOSE 2
SENATE RACES IN THAT JANUARY
RUNOFF IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE TO
SUGGEST THAT IF HE CONTINUES TO
TALK ABOUT THIS THAT THIS
ACTUALLY HURT REPUBLICANS THAT
ACTUALLY HELPS DEMOCRATS OF THE
END OF THE DAY.
>> OH ABSOLUTELY AND I THINK
THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN
RACES WHERE TRUMP
IS ON A BALLOT AND HE DOES HAVE
AN INCREDIBLE ABILITY TO TURN
OUT LOTS
OF VOTERS, INCLUDING THOSE WHO
MAY NOT NORMALLY COME OUT TO
VOTE, BUT IN CASES LIKE THE
GEORGIA RUNOFF WHERE TRUMP.
IT'S NOT ON THE BALLOT. SO YOU
LACK THAT
MOTIVATING FACTOR SEARCH AND
YOU HAVE ALL THESE OFFICIALS
TOOK DOWN THE CHAIN DOWN
THE ALLEY AND THESE LOCAL
OFFICES, SPREADING
MISINFORMATION AND LIES ABOUT
THE ELECTION BEING STOLEN
ABSOLUTELY CAN HAVE THE
MOTIVATING FACTS AND CAN MAKE
PEOPLE WHO
ARE NOT DIE HARD POLITICAL
BELIEVERS AND TRUMP SUPPORTERS
THINK ALL OF MY VOTES, YOU KNOW
NOT TO COUNT THEM WASHED EVEN
BOTHER SHOWING UP AND I THINK
WE DID SEE SOME OF THAT
IN THE GEORGIA RUNOFF SO I
DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN ASSUME
IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE
MOTIVATING FACTOR WHEN TRUMP
IS NOT.
>> ON THE BALLOT, A GREAT TO
HAVE A LESS THAN 60 SECONDS
COULD THIS ALSO POTENTIALLY
IMPLICATE YOU KNOW ASSOCIATES
OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT I'M
TALKING LIKE RUDY GIULIANI,
THOSE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.
>> YEAH ABSOLUTELY WE KNOW THAT
GIULIANI WAS INVOLVED IN
EFFORTS TO TRY TO ASSURE
OFFICIALS IN GEORGIA
TO RETURN. ELECTION RESULTS AND
ALSO WE
KNOW THAT COUNTY DA'S
INVESTIGATION IS ALSO LOOKING