AND STICKING
WITH POLITICS WANT TO BRING IN
ANDY KROLL THE WASHINGTON
BUREAU CHIEF OVER AT
ROLLING STONE YEAH GOOD
MORNING, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
GETTING UP EARLY WITH US ON
THIS MONDAY. WE SAW
THE PRESIDENT, HIS FIRST PUBLIC
APPEARANCE SINCE HIS COVID
DIAGNOSIS SATURDAY AT THE WHITE
HOUSE. ACCUSING THE PRESIDENT
OF USING THIS WHITE HOUSE BACK.
A PARTISAN POLITICAL
EVENT CAN YOU TELL US A BIT
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT
THE REACTION HAS BEEN. THE
PRESIDENT OVER
THE WEEKEND.
>> HAD WHAT WE WERE TOLD WAS
GOING TO BE SEVERAL 1000 BUT
WHAT ENDED UP BEING SEVERAL
100. SUPPORTERS GATHER ON THE
SOUTH LAWN TO HEAR THE
PRESIDENT GIVE A SPEECH
FROM THE BLUE ROOM OF THE WHITE
HOUSE HE STOOD ON THE
BALCONY, HE ARRIVED WEARING A
MASK AND THEN SORT OF TRICK LEE
TOOK HIS MASK
IT WAS FITTING FOR THE MOMENT
BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN
THAT CROWD DID NOT HAVE MASKS
ON AS WELL BY THE GUIDANCE FOR
WEARING MASKS HERE IN THE
DISTRICT COLUMBIA, SO THERE ARE
SOME PROBLEMS ALREADY THAT THE
WHITE HOUSE REALLY DIDN'T SEEM
TO HAVE ANY ISSUE VIOLATING OUR
GUIDELINES VIOLATING.
WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS
SPEECH I WOULD SAY IS THAT IT
WAS NOT LIKE A TYPICAL TRUMP
RALLY WHICH MORE OR LESS THIS
WAS BILLED ASKED THE PRESIDENT
ARRIVED ON
TIME HE NEVER ARRIVES ON TIME
FOR HIS RALLIES, I KNOW I'VE
BEEN TO PLENTY HE SPOKE FOR
ABOUT 18 MINUTES ABOUT.
SOCIALISTS COMING TO TAKE OVER
THE COUNTRY
ABOUT QUOTE UNQUOTE SLEEPY JOE
BIDEN BUT IT WAS A PRETTY BRIEF
SPEECH FOR THE PRESIDENT WHO
TYPICALLY LIKES TO
KIND OF MONOLOGUE. HE LIKES TO
TALK FOR AS LONG AS
YOU ALLOW AND IT'S A WAYS IT
WAS A SUBDUED KIND OF LOW
ENERGY AFFAIR FOR THIS
PRESIDENT. MAYBE IT WAS BECAUSE
HE STILL DEALING WITH THE
EFFECTS OF HIS COVID-19
INFECTION, MAYBE HE DIDN'T LIKE
BACK AT THE CROWD SIZE WASN'T
UP TO HIS LIKING GIVEN THAT IT
WAS ABOUT A 10TH OF WHAT WE
WE'RE TOLD, BUT IT WAS NOT
YOUR TYPICAL CAMPAIGN RALLY
EVEN THOUGH GIVEN THE SUBSTANCE
OF IT BASICALLY WAS A CAMPAIGN
RALLY.
>> AND SEE WHAT DO WE
KNOW THAT ACTUALLY ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT'S CONDITION AT THIS
POINT SO THE WHITE HOUSE DOCTOR
IS DOCTOR CAME OUT TO SAY THAT
HE'S NO LONGER CONTAGIOUS.
BUT AT THIS POINT WE STILL
DON'T KNOW IF YOU TOOK A A TEST
AND HAD A NEGATIVE RESULT RIGHT
A MINUTE AND IF HE DID WOULDN'T
THAT THE INFORMATION THAT THEY
WANT TO SHARE.
>> YOU WOULD THINK THAT A
NEGATIVE TEST WOULD BE REALLY
IMPORTANT INFORMATION THEY
WOULD WANT TO SHARE WITH THAT
LEADS US TO
THINK WITHOUT DURING TOO MUCH
IN THE REALM
OF SPECULATION THAT HE IS STILL
INFECTIOUS OR THAT HE STILL
TEST POSITIVE RIGHT NOW WHAT WE
NEED ANSWERS TO A NUMBER OF
QUESTIONS REALLY WE NEED
ANSWERS TO WHEN WAS HIS
LAST NEGATIVE TEST BEFORE HE
TESTED POSITIVE THAT AGAIN IS
SOMETHING THE WHITE HOUSE HAS
NOT WANTED TO DISCLOSE IT HAS
REFUSED
TO DISCLOSE TO THE MEDIA TO THE
PUBLIC THAT WOULD GIVE US A
LITTLE BETTER SENSE OF THAT
TIMELINE OF THE PRESIDENT
INFECTION, YOU KNOW WHAT IT
HAPPEN AND WHERE HE WAS WHERE
ELSE HE MIGHT HAVE GONE WALL,
HE WAS POSITIVE FOR
COVID-19. SO THERE'S THAT ISSUE
AND THE ISSUE NOW IS LOOK AT
WHAT IS TESTING REGIMEN LOOK
LIKE WHAT ARE
THE RESULTS. HOW HEALTHY IS
HEAVING WE'RE GETTING THESE
SORT OF ROSIE.
PICTURES OF THE PRESIDENT'S
HEALTH FROM HIS AIDES FROM HIS
DOCTOR AND WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY
GETTING HARD DATA ABOUT
OK WHEN DID HE LAST TEST
NEGATIVE HAS HE TESTED
NEGATIVE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN
FOR US THIS UPCOMING WEEK.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR HIS
ABILITY TO GO BACK OUT ON THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL WE'RE STILL IN
THE
DARK HERE. THE PRESIDENT'S
ACTUAL HEALTHY CLEARLY SEEMS TO
BE DOING SOMEWHAT BETTER IF YOU
CAN GIVE
A SPEECH IF YOU CAN GIVE THESE
TO OUR INTERVIEWS WITH RUSH
LIMBAUGH OR SEAN HANNITY
EVEN THOUGH AGAIN AND THOSE HE
SOUNDED A LITTLE BIT FRAIL AND
SAID THEY HAD SOME COST SOUNDED
A LITTLE SHORT OF BREATH.
SO WE
HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN WE
HAVE ANSWERS RIGHT NOW IN THE
WHITE HOUSE SEEMS TO WANT TO
KEEP IT THAT WAY UNTIL THEY
HAVE
SOMETHING VERY POSITIVE
INTANGIBLE TO GIVE US LIKE A
NEGATIVE TEST WHICH DOES NOT
SEEM THEY HAVE YET.
>> I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE RECENT POLLING OUT
WHICH HAS THE PRESIDENT LOSING
A BIT MORE OR SUPPORT TRAILING
JOE BIDEN RIGHT NOW.
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS THAT
YOU SPEAK TO BEHIND THE SCENES,
WHAT IS THE FEELING.
OR ARE THEY NERVOUS BECAUSE
OF COURSE WE SAW THE POLLS 4
YEARS AGO, I LE IN FAVOR OF
HILLARY CLINTON.
>> SO THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE JOE I
HEAR A MIX OF.
HOLDING THEIR BREATH LIKE LIKE
WE DID YOU KNOW HOLDING THEIR
BREATH THINKING ABOUT FOR YEARS
GOING NOT WANTING TO GET
TOO EXCITED. BUT ALSO A SENSE
THAT THE CONTINUED NUMBER OF
POLLS THAT HAVE SHOWED NOT
ONLY A LEAD FOR JOE BIDEN BUT
IN SOME CASES, A WIDENING LEAD
FOR JOE BIDEN IN
NATIONAL POLLS IN STAPLES
LEADING SOME DEMOCRATS TO THINK
THAT HEY THIS THING MIGHT
ACTUALLY BE SETTLED ON
ELECTION NIGHT OR ON THE
MORNING AFTER WORD IT'S NOT
GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY THIS
DAY'S LAW. 4 WEEKS LONG
DRAWN-OUT BATTLE THAT A LOT
OF US PREPARING FOR GIVEN WHAT
THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID AND
GIVEN THE POSSIBILITY OF
DELAYED VOTE COMING LIKE THIS
THING COULD BE OVER PRETTY
QUICK ON THE REPUBLICAN SEN ALL
RIGHT IF YOU TALK TO
PEOPLE IN THE PRESIDENT'S
ORBIT, IT'S ALL GOOD NEWS.
IT'S THE POLLS ARE WRONG IT
THERE ARE MILLIONS OF TRUMP
SUPPORTERS OUT THERE WHO ARE
NOT BEING COUNTED IN
THE POLLS BEING BEING TAKEN
INTO ACCOUNT IN THESE
PROJECTIONS FOR THE RACE BUT
DATA DOESN'T BACK THAT UP BUT
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
REPUBLICANS OUTSIDE OF TRUMP
WORLD SUCH AS THAT THEY ARE
OUR CONCERT IN A REALLY FOCUSED
NOW ON TRYING TO PROTECT SENATE
CANDIDATES AS BEST AS THEY CAN
TRYING TO PROTECT THAT SENATE
MAJORITY AND SENATE MAJORITY
LEADER PARNELL'S GRIP ON THAT
CHAMBER, SO THAT IF THERE IS
A PRESIDENT BIDEN AND IF
SPEAKER PELOSI KEEPS YOUR
CHAIR, WHICH SEEMS MORE LIKE
WAIT THEY WILL HAVE A CHECK ON
THOSE 2 DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED
SITUATIONS.
>> AND SOMETHING I WOULD JUST
LOVE IT. WE DON'T HAVE MUCH
TIME, BUT I JUST WOULD LOVE TO
GET YOUR TAKE ON LAST WEEK I
INTERVIEWED AN EDITOR FROM FROM
TIME MAGAZINE AND SHE DOES
STORY TALKING ABOUT HOW
DIFFICULT IT IS DURING THIS
TIME
OF COVID TO REALLY TAKE THE
TEMPERATURE SO
TO SPEAK. OF REGULAR AMERICANS
PEOPLE WHO AREN'T JUST SAY YOU
KNOW IN WASHINGTON IN NEW YORK,
AN L A
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY
BECAUSE BECAUSE OF COVID
BECAUSE IT'S JUST HARD TO YOU
KNOW TALK TALK TO PEOPLE RIGHT
NOW. THERE WAS A CONCERN BACK
IN 2016 THAT THE MAINSTREAM
MEDIA JUST MISSED.
THE FACT THAT THAT TRUMP WAS
GOING TO WIN THIS ELECTION.
DO YOU FEEL THAT RIGHT NOW I
THINK YOU'RE THE WASHINGTON
BUREAU CHIEF DO YOU THINK THAT
THERE'S A SENSE THAT IT'S HARD
TO GAUGE WHERE MOST AMERICANS
ARE RIGHT NOW.
>> I THINK THAT POLLS CAN ONLY
TELL YOU SO MUCH. I DO THINK
THAT IT'S IT'S A
VALUABLE TOOL POLLING AND ALSO
THE SORT OF QUALITATIVE
INTERVIEWS THAT GO ALONG WITH
COLDER HELPFUL. BUT YEAH,
ABSOLUTELY THERE IS A BUBBLE
MENTALITY PROBLEM WITH THE
MEDIA AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I
TRY TO COUNTERACT AS MUCH AS
I CAN IT IS AN ELECTION YEAR
THIS YEAR HAS BEEN ESPECIALLY
DIFFICULT WITH COVID AND THE
INABILITY TO TRAVEL AND MEET
PEOPLE FACE TO FACE WHAT I WILL
SAY IS IN THE PLACES I TRAVELED
IN 2016. I HAVE GOTTEN BACK TO
THIS TIME AROUND AND I THINK
ABOUT MY HOME STATE OF MICHIGAN
FOR INSTANCE, I THINK ABOUT THE
STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, WHICH
I CAN DRIVE TO
WHAT I HEAR THAT'S DIFFERENT IS
PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED THE
PRESIDENT 4 YEARS AGO NOT ALL
OF THEM BITING ITS BUT SOME
HAVE SAID YOU KNOW THAT THEY
ARE EXHAUSTED BY THE LAST 4
YEARS THAT THE TRUMP SHOW HAS
WARNED THEM OUT AND THEY WANT
YOU KNOW IT HE'S ANOTHER
METAPHOR FOR THE TICKET OFF
THIS ROLLER COASTER RIDE
THAT THEY BOUGHT A TICKET FOR 4
YEARS AGO NOW THAT'S NOT A
SCIENTIFIC. A SURVEY OF ALL
THOSE PHOTOS, BUT IT'S
SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T HEAR 4
YEARS AGO THAT I INCREASINGLY
HERE NOW I THINK IT EXPLAINS
SOME OF THESE POLLING NUMBERS
FOR THE THE PRESIDENT AND I
THINK IT'S SOMETHING YOU GOT TO
TAKE INTO IT.
WHAT PEOPLE ARE ARE VOTING
GOING INTO THIS ELECTION
DECIDING WHETHER TO STAND THIS
PRESIDENT BACK TO THE WHITE