>> WELCOME BACK TO CHEDDAR NEWS
WRAP THE RETURN TO NORMAL LIFE
COULD BE LESS THAN A YEAR AWAY
ACCORDING TO THE HEAD OF
PFIZER HOWEVER CHAIRMAN AND CEO
ALBERT BOURLA SAYS THE WORLD
WILL NOT BE EXACTLY THE SAME AS
IT WAS BEFORE STATING
HE DOESN'T THINK THAT COVID
VARIANTS WILL NECESSARILY GO
AWAY AND THAT COVID VACCINES
WILL STILL VERY MUCH BE IN THE
PICTURE LIKE THE FLU SHOT
ANNUAL COVID VACCINES MAY BE A
THING AS WELL JUST LAST WEEK
YOU MAY REMEMBER THE MODERNA
CEO PREDICTED THE PANDEMIC
COULD BE OVER IN
A YEAR. JOINING US NOW TO
DISCUSS IS DOCTOR AMISH ADALJA
INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST
AND SENIOR SCHOLAR AT JOHNS
HOPKINS CENTER FOR HEALTH
SECURITY DOCTOR TOES A
PRIVILEGE WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO
TAKE TIME FOR US, THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR DOING SO ONCE
AGAIN TODAY SO WHAT DO YOU
THINK OF THIS TIMELINE OF THE
MODERNA AND
PFIZER C YO HAVE SAID WHAT'S
YOUR THOUGHT WHEN YOU HEAR THAT
DO YOU FEEL LIKE WITH THAT'S
THAT'S MORE OR LESS THE RIGHT
PACE.
>> I DO THINK NORMALCY COMES
WHEN YOU HAVE ENOUGH HIGH-RISK
PEOPLE VACCINATED THAT YOU
DON'T SEE
COVID-19 IMPINGING ON HOSPITAL
CAPACITY AND THAT SORT OF BEEN
ACHIEVED IN SOME STATES AND
UNITED STATES. BUT CLEARLY NOT
THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
SO AS MORE PEOPLE GET INFECTED
AGAIN NATURAL IMMUNITY AS MORE
PEOPLE GET VACCINATED WE'LL SEE
THIS VIRUS
TRANSITION TO A RESPIRATORY
VIRUS THAT WE DEAL WITH YEAR IN
AND YEAR OUT, BUT IT'S NOT
GOING TO BE THE CASE THAT WE
HAVE 0 CASES OR 0
HOSPITALIZATIONS OR 0 DEATHS
THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME
FACE TIME. BUT NORMALCY IS
ABOUT LEARNING HOW TO MAKE RISK
CALCULATIONS LIVE WITH THE
VIRUS THAT'S GOING TO BE WITH
US FOREVER.
>> SHE'S A YEAR IN YEAR
RIGHT NOW END OF SEPTEMBER THIS
AROUND THE TIME THAT MY MOTHER
ALWAYS ENCOURAGES ME TO GET MY
FLU SHOT AND SHE TEXT MEAN
NEARLY EVERY DAY TO MAKE SURE
THAT I'M DOING SO WE EXPECT
SOMETHING SIMILAR HERE AS IT
PERTAINS TO
THE FUTURE OF A HOUSE A
POST-PANDEMIC FUTURE BUT AS WE
LEARNED TO DEAL WITH THIS THING
IN OUR LIVES OR ARE WE UP FOR
ANNUAL SHOTS TO ONE DEGREE OR
ANOTHER DOCTOR DAUGHTER.
>> TO ME IT'S PREMATURE TO
THINK ABOUT NEEDING ANNUAL
SHOTS BECAUSE COVID COVID IS A
CORONAVIRUS WHICH IS VERY
DIFFERENT THAN INFLUENZA AND
THE REASON WE DO THOSE
INFLUENZA UPDATES EVERY YEARS
BECAUSE THE VIRUS SHIFTS IN THE
WAY THAT IT REALLY ESCAPES THE
PROTECTION FROM THE OTHER
VERSIONS OF THE VACCINE AND
WE'RE NOT REALLY SEEING THAT
WITH WITH
COVID-19 IT MAY BE THE CASE
ALSO THAT WE GET BETTER SECOND
GENERATION VACCINES THAT THAT
ARE MORE ROBUST AND GIVE YOU
NASAL IMMUNITY THAT THAT ARE
JUST ALL A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO
GET. AND IT MAY BE
SOMETHING THAT TRANSITIONS TO A
CHILDHOOD IMMUNIZATION AND
MAYBE MORE LIKE MEASLES WHERE
YOU GET SOME PRIMARY SERIES AND
THAT'S ALL SO I DON'T
THINK YOU CAN ACTUALLY
TELEGRAPH WHAT IS GOING TO BE
UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SEE WHAT
VACCINES GET DEVELOPED AND SEE
HOW OUR IMMUNITY STANDS UP TO
THIS VIRUS OVER TIME AND THAT'S
JUST GOING TO TAKE YOU KNOW THE
ACTUAL BE A LAPSE OF TIME TO BE
ABLE TO KNOW THAT FOR SURE.
>> DOCTOR FOR YOU SAW THE
IMAGES THE VIDEO OF OUR
COMMANDER IN CHIEF PRESIDENT
JOE BIDEN RECEIVING HIS BOOSTER
TODAY, I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN
SOME CONFUSION BECAUSE THERE
HAS BEEN SORT OF SHIFTING OR
CHANGING AN ADJUSTMENT OF
GUIDANCE HERE. WHAT IS THE
LATEST AS WE UNDERSTAND IT
TODAY WITH REGARDS TO WHO IS
ELIGIBLE REALLY WHO SHOULD BE
CONSIDERING OR RECEIVING A
COVID BOOSTER SHOT.
>> SO THERE ARE 2 CATEGORIES
THAT SHOULD BE GETTING BOOSTERS
AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS
UNEQUIVOCAL WHEN IT REALLY CAME
TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S
DECISIONS. FIRST OF ALL FOR
PEOPLE THAT ARE ABOVE THE AGE
OF 65. THEY SHOULD BE GETTING A
BOOSTER WE'VE SEEN SOME
DECREASING PROTECTION AGAINST
SEVERE DISEASE IN THAT GROUP.
ALSO PEOPLE ABOVE THE AGE OF 50
BUT BETWEEN 5064 HAVE
SOME HIGH RISK CONDITION FOR
SEVERE COVID SO MAYBE THAT'S
DIABETES OBESITY HYPERTENSION
ASTHMA. EMPHYSEMA,
THOSE TYPES THE PEOPLE THE
OTHER GROUPS ARE LITTLE BIT
SHAKE HERE. IF YOU LOOK AT
PEOPLE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 8
KEENAN 49, IF YOU'VE GOT A HIGH
RISK CONDITION. YOU SHOULD
DISCUSS IT WITH YOUR DOCTOR
WHETHER YOU NEED TO GET A
BOOSTER BECAUSE THERE MAY BE
SOME BENEFIT THERE AND THEN
THIS 4TH GROUP JUST THE MORE
CONTROVERSIAL
GROUP WHERE THE CDC DIRECTOR
INSERTED BACK IN A
RECOMMENDATION THAT HER
ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAD VOTED
DOWN THAT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO
THINK THEY
HAVE OCCUPATIONAL RISKS AND
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE
CONTROVERSIAL BECAUSE THEY WERE
NOT TALKING ABOUT MANY SEVERE
DISEASE THAT'S MORE ABOUT
PREVENTING BREAKTHROUGH
INFECTIONS AND WORK
KHLOE DISRUPTION IN IN THE
WORKPLACE AND I THINK THAT'S A
DIFFERENT PROSPECTS AND THERE
IS SOME CONTROVERSY WITH THAT
LAST FOR.
>> YEAH OF COURSE DOCTOR
WALENSKY MAKING MORE THAN A FEW
HEADLINES AT THE END OF LAST
WEEK FOR SOMEWHAT DISTANCING
HER SON. FROM HERSELF AND THE
REST OF THAT
PANEL THERE.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK WE MIGHT
EXPECT TO SEE BOOSTER APPROVAL
FOR ALL THESE OTHER GROUPS THAT
YOU JUST EXPLICIT WE LAY OUT
DOCTOR WHAT
IS THAT POTENTIAL TIME I KNOW
WE LIKE TO GET INTO
HYPOTHETICALS BECAUSE THE
SCIENCE SO YOU KNOW IT IS SORT
OF EVOLVING AND WE'RE LEARNING
MORE AS WE GO BUT IS THAT
POTENTIAL TIMELINE LOOK LIKE
YOU THINK.
>> I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE TO MEET
THE THRESHOLD FOR NEEDING A
BOOSTER IS WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE
GETTING BREAKTHROUGH INFECTIONS
THAT ARE LANDING THEM IN
HOSPITAL CAUSE WHEN COVID IS
CAUSING SEVERE DISEASE AND
VACCINATE INDIVIDUALS AND WE'RE
NOT SEEING THAT OUTSIDE OF
BASICALLY THE ELDERLY AND
SOME PEOPLE IRIS CONDITION.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT
GOING TO BE NECESSARY. I KNOW
THAT THERE IS AN INCENTIVE
PEOPLE WANT THIS. THE PRESIDENT
CLEARLY WANTS
THIS BUT IS THAT THIS TODAY TO
SUPPORT THAT WE'RE SEEING
EROSION OF THE ABILITY TO
PROTECT AGAINST SEVERE DISEASE.
I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO SO
UNLESS THEY CHANGE THE METRICS
FOR WHAT WHAT A BOOSTER IS
REQUIRED TO PROVE IT
AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK
THAT THIS IS A FOREGONE
CONCLUSION, BUT AGAIN IT'S IT'S
A TEST OF TIME TO SEE ARE WE
SEEING BREAKTHROUGH INFECTIONS
IN PEOPLE WELL THAT ARE HEALTHY
THAT ARE FULLY VACCINATE THE
LAND THEM IN HOSPITAL THAT TO
ME IS THE THRESHOLD I DON'T
QUITE YET.
>> OF COURSE NOW WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT AMERICANS RECEIVING THE
CENTURY THEIR 3RD DOSE OF A
COVID SHOPPING DOCTOR DOLLARS
AS YOU WELL KNOW
YOU HAVE MANY MANY AMERICANS
PERHAPS FAR TOO MANY AMERICANS
HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY DOSE WHAT
IS YOUR BIGGEST CONCERN AS WE
TALK ABOUT A POST PANDA, MY
FUTURE OR A RETURN TO THEIR ICE
A NORMAL.
>> THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS WE
STILL HAVE A LARGE PROPORTION
OF THE POPULATION THAT DOES NOT
HAVE IMMUNITY IF NATURAL
INFECTION
OR FROM VACCINATION AND THAT'S
GOING CONTINUE TO MAKE
HOSPITALS HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
THEIR CAPACITY, THE ABILITY TO
PERFORM PROCEDURES AND NON
COVID RELATED AND THAT'S THAT
THE BIGGEST THAT'S
THE BIGGEST FACTOR THAT WILL
PUT THIS PANDEMIC IN OUR
REARVIEW MIRROR GETTING MORE
PEOPLE PROTECTED SO THAT WE
DON'T HAVE THIS VIRUS. CRUSHING
HOSPITALS AND IT IS STILL
QUESTION HOSPITALS IN CERTAIN
PARTS OF THAT COUNTRY AND
THAT'S REALLY UNACCEPTABLE AT
THIS STAGE OF THE PANDEMIC WHEN
WE HAVE SUCH A A GOOD TOOL LIKE
THE VACCINE THAT CAN ACTUALLY.
MAKE COVID-19 A MUCH TAMER
VIRUS.
>> OF COURSE THE COMMANDER IN
CHIEF CONTINUES TO REFER TO IT
AS THE PANDEMIC OF THE
ON VACCINATE IT ALL THE MORE
IMPORTANT TO HAVE THESE
CO