CHINA AND RUSSIA ARE SAYING
THEY WANT TO CEMENT TIES AFTER
PRESIDENT XI JINPING IN
VLADIMIR PUTIN HELD A VIRTUAL
MEETING EARLIER THIS WEEK, A
BOY THE DOT COMS AS WESTERN
COUNTRIES CONDEMN RUSSIA FOR
ITS MILITARY BUILDUP NEAR THE
UKRAINIAN BORDER AND CRITICIZE
CHINA FOR ITS HUMAN RIGHTS
ABUSES AGAINST MUSLIM
MINORITIES. JOINING ME NOW IS
HUG OUR SOMALI COAST MY WORLD
ON YOUTUBE AND FORMER
SPOKESPERSON FOR THE U.S.
MISSION TO THE UNITED NATIONS
AND MY FRIEND HI NICE TO SEE
WHAT'S BEEN SOME TIME
REALLY APPRECIATE THEY ARE HERE
TO HELP US MAKE SENSE OF
EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING EVEN
BEFORE THIS CALL HERE. THE
KREMLIN CHARACTERIZE CHINA AS
AN ALLY PERHAPS NO BIG SURPRISE
IS THIS
IN ALLIANCE IF THAT IT IS A
WORD THAT DOESN'T GO TOO FAR TO
DESCRIBE IT IF IT IS HOW FAR
WILL THE 2 COUNTRIES GOING
SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER
ESPECIALLY AS IT
PERTAINS TO PUSHING BACK
AGAINST AMERICAN INTERESTS.
I'M SURE.
>> I WILL THANK YOU AND THANKS
TO BE SO GREAT TO
SEE YOU. ALLIANCE IS STRONG
WORD BECAUSE ALLIANCE IMPLIES
THAT IF ONE IS IT PACK THE
OTHER BUDDY OTHER ONE WILL COME
TO THE OTHER PERSON'S
DEFENSE RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW IT
MEANT THEY WERE CAREFUL RIGHT
AFTER THE VIDEO TELECONFERENCE
TO CLARIFY IT WASN'T REALLY AN
ALLY FOR THE CHINESE DID COME
OUT TO TO CLARIFY MESSAGING
BEFORE THEM. THE CALL TO SAY
THAT IT WAS STRATEGIC
COOPERATION RIGHT AND THAT BOTH
THAT BASICALLY EACH SIDE
SUPPORTS THE OTHER. AND THERE
IS SOME TRUTH THERE. IT'S ALSO
A LITTLE BIT AN EXAGGERATION
RIGHT. SO
FOR EXAMPLE, WELL CHINA HAS
NEVER RECOGNIZED RUSSIA'S
ANNEXATION OF CRIMEA RIGHT THAT
CHUNK OF UKRAINE THAT THEY
ANNEXED IN 2014 WHEN THE CRISIS
THERE STARTED. RUSSIA HAS NEVER
EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR CHINESE
EXPANSION TO THE SOUTH
CHINA SEA. SO THERE ARE REAL
MAJOR MILITARY MOVES THAT BOTH
HAVE MADE THAT NIGHT OR
EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR A LITTLE
BIT OF THIS
IS PR AND SOME OF IT IS TO PUSH
BACK ON THE UNITED STATES RIGHT
BOTH OF THEM ARE ON THE
RECEIVING END OF TOUGH US
POLICIES
RIGHT NOW, AND AS ANY AND
REALLY RECENTLY SO YOU KNOW
RUSSIA LAST WEEK GOT THE YOU
KNOW WAS TOLD BY PRESIDENT
BIDEN NOT TO INVADE OR ELSE BE
ON THE OTHER END OF TOUGH
SANCTIONS. AND THE CHINESE WE
JUST ANNOUNCED THE BOYCOTT OF
THE BEIJING OLYMPICS, THE CUT
CONGRESS IS CONSIDERING A BAN
ON ANY IMPORTS COMING FROM
SHOULD A JOB THAT IS THE AREA
WHERE THE CHINESE REGIME IS
PURSUING ITS GENOCIDE OF THE
WEEK ARE MINOR
MINORITY SO A LOT OF THIS WAS
TO PUSH BACK IT IS NOT NORMAL
FOR THOUGHTS TO GET TOGETHER
THEY DO THIS ALL
THE TIME. I'M NOT SAYING THAT I
PROMOTE YOU DON'T WANT
A SITUATION THE WORLD WHERE YOU
HAVE A COLD WAR YOU DON'T WANT
THAT BECAUSE THAT CAN BE VERY
DANGEROUS OBVIOUSLY BUT IT IS
ALSO
NOT NORMAL WHEN COUNTRIES ARE
ISOLATED TO START TO
STICK TOGETHER.
>> SO SINCE YOU MENTIONED EVENT
THIS IN JOHN THEIR REGION YOU
OBVIOUSLY THAT IS PART OF WHAT
THE UNITED STATES RIGHT
NOW IS SORT OF POINTING TO WITH
REGARDS TO SO-CALLED DIPLOMATIC
BOYCOTT OF THE
UPCOMING OLYMPICS WITH REGARDS
TO ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA,
HOW CONCERNED SHOULD THIS WHITE
GUARD SHOULD THE UNITED STATES
BE AS THEY LOOK OVER AND SAY.
WELL OUR 2 BIGGEST ADVERSARIES
ARE HERE
LEAST THE KIND OF CASUALLY
HANGING OUT IF NOT FALL ON THEY
ARE THEY'RE SORT OF GET ALONG.
>> THIS SHOULD BE CONCERNED IN
A LOT OF WAYS THERE ARE A LOT
OF THINGS NOW NEXT IT'S GOING
TO HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL
ABOUT BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT
TO OVER AND THE SIZE IT RIGHT
AND WENT OVER EXAGGERATING
BECAUSE I WAS LIKE I SAID IS
NORMAL WHEN YOU HAVE COUNTRIES
THAT THAT ARE
BEING ISOLATED. THEY DO TEND TO
PARTNER TO GET IT RIGHT HERE ON
IN SYRIA OUR FRIEND, RUSSIA AND
VENEZUELA ARE FRIENDS CUBA AND
VENEZUELA ARE FRIENDS RIGHT
THIS IS A VERY COMMON.
COMMON PATTERN AND THEY ARE
STRONGER TOGETHER IN THAT THEY
FIND WAYS TO TRADE WITH EACH
OTHER THEY WANT TO PURSUE JOINT
MILITARY EXERCISES.
>> THEY
WILL IN.
>> AT LEAST TRIES AND RUSSIANS
HAVE SAID THAT NOW THEY'RE
GOING TO PURSUE WAYS TO
CIRCUMVENT US ECONOMIC
SANCTIONS BY BANKING WITH EACH
OTHER AND SO ON AND SO THESE
ARE OF COURSE THREATS THAT THE
UNITED STATES HAS TO BE
VERY WELL AREA AND IN
PARTICULAR WHEN IT COMES I
THINK THE BIGGEST THREAT WOULD
YOU HAVE CHINA AND RUSSIA
PARTNERING TOGETHER OUR CYBER
THREATS RIGHT THESE
ARE 2 POWERHOUSES IN THE CYBER
ATTACK WE HAVE
THEN REPEATEDLY TAX THROUGH
PRODUCTS FROM THEIR MALIGN SIDE
ACTIVITIES FROM BOTH RUSSIA AND
THE CHINESE AND SO THAT'S
SOMETHING THE NEXT IT'S GOING
TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
BUT THE MAIN THING HERE THAT
THE U.S. HAS TO BE CAREFUL OF
IS NOT SO MUCH THAT THEIR
PARTNERSHIP IS GOING TO CAUSE
SOME KIND OF
3RD WORLD WAR. IT'S THAT WE
HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN
THIS BALANCE OF POWER.
SO THAT IF WE IF WE MAKE A
WRONG MOVE AND WE GO TOO FAR IN
PUSHING. IT COULD END UP
SPARKING MILITARY AGGRESSION
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT IF
WE PURSUE DEFENSE
SYSTEMS THAT COME OFF AS THOUGH
THEY'RE OVERLY AGGRESSIVE.
WE PURSUE STEPS IN OUR SPACE
THAT COME OFF AS THOUGH THEY
WILL THREATEN THE CHINESE AND
RUSSIANS THAT'S WHAT THAT'S HOW
THEY WILL INTERPRET IT,
I MEAN IT COULD THROW
EVERYTHING OFF BALANCE AND THIS
IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT
FOR THE UNITED STATES TO PURSUE
RIGHT NOW GIVEN THEIR
PARTNERSHIP.
>> WOW GAR EVERY TIME WE TALK I
LEGITIMATE I
JUST LISTENED EVERY WORD AND I
LEARNED SO MUCH AND I WISH I
COULD DO AN ENTIRE HOUR LONG
SPECIAL WITH YOU JUST TO HELP
OUR VIEWERS BETTER UNDERSTAND
THE STATE OF THE WORLD BECAUSE
YOU'RE SO GOOD AT AND SO THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE AGAIN.
OKAY SO MANY OF THE
EYES, THE WORLD ARE CLOSELY
WATCHING WHAT HAPPENS ALONG THE
UKRAINE BORDER WITH REGARDS TO
A BUILDUP OF MILITARY PERSONNEL
THIS LAST. SEVERAL MONTHS BUT
THE REALLY LOOK AT I THINK AT
THE WEEKS AND MONTHS AHEAD,
ESPECIALLY TO SEE HOW BIG THAT
THOSE FORCES
COULD GET WHAT IS CHINA'S ROLE
AND THAT IS CHINA SORT OF
PUBLICLY ON THE RECORD ABOUT
SUPPORTER CRITICISM
ONE WAY ANOTHER AND WHAT WHAT
DOES THAT DYNAMIC LOOK LIKE IS
THAT IMPORTANT DYNAMIC TO
FOLLOW.
>> YES, I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED
ABOUT THIS I LOVE TO KICK OUT
ON THIS ISSUE SO THE CHINESE IS
NOT ABOUT ANY WHICH WAY
ACTUALLY ON THE ISSUE REGARDING
UKRAINE AND TO SAY THAT THEY
SUPPORT RUSSIA'S SECURITY AND
SOVEREIGNTY AND
SO ON BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE
DAY THE WAY THE RUSSIANS VIEW
OF THE UKRAINE ISSUE. AND THE
WAY THE CHINESE ARE ALSO GOING
TO VIEW IT THEY'RE GOING TO
LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE
LENS OF ANY THREATS TO THEIR TO
THEMSELVES RIGHT
AND WHAT'S HAPPENED TO CRANK
BOILS DOWN TO AT THE END OF THE
DAY RIGHT TO NATO CREATED IN
1949 AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
COLD WAR, THE IDEA THAT WAS TO
LINK UP COUNTRIES TO BECOMING A
LINES IN CASE, RUSSIA TAX SO
THAT IF ANY ONE OF THEM WERE
ATTACKED
BY RUSSIA, THEY WOULD ALL COME
TO THEIR DEFENSE BUT
WHEN THE SOVIET UNION COLLAPSED
AT THE END OF THE COLD WAR NATO
CONTINUE TO EXIST AND THAT HAS
BEEN A THORN IN PUTIN'S SITE
AND SO HIS MESSAGE BY LIVE
COMING UP WHAT WHAT ARE
CURRENTLY OVER 90,000 TROOPS
ALONG THE BORDER WITH UKRAINE
HIS MESSAGE IS TO USE THESE
TROOPS TO GET SOME KIND TO TO
ADVANCE THINGS CAN JUST MEANING
HE WANTS AND HE HAS SAID HE
CAME OUT ACTUALLY OVERNIGHT
SAYING THAT HIS
DEMANDS ARE THAT THAT MEMBERS
OF EASTERN EUROPE THAT WERE
ACCEPTED INTO NATO AFTER 1997
COUNTRIES LIKE POLAND AND
LITHUANIA
IN LAFAYETTE THAT THEY BE
BASICALLY KICKED OUT OF NATO
WHICH IS A RIDICULOUS REQUEST
AND THAT IT IS
ASSURED THAT UKRAINE NOT BE
ACCEPTED INTO NATO AND THE
REASON HE DOESN'T WANT THESE
COUNTRIES AND NATO IS BECAUSE
IT TO HIM HE I
HEAT INTO PURPORTS THAT AS
THREATENING TO HIM RIGHT IT
MEANS THAT THAT IS A LARGER
BLOCK. IT MEANS
THAT MILITARY EQUIPMENT AND
TROOPS COULD BE STATIONED IN
THOSE COUNTRIES CLOSER TO THE
RUSSIAN BORDER. NOW THESE
REQUESTS ON A SHARED A KISS
BECAUSE THEY INFRINGE ON THE
SOVEREIGNTY OF THOSE
GOVERNMENTS SO NO ONE IS GOING
TO GIVE IN TO THOSE ARE GREAT
THOSE
THOSE DEMANDS. HOWEVER UKRAINE
IS NOT GOING TO COME PART OF
NATO ANYTIME SOON BECAUSE IF IT
WORKS THE MEMBERS KNOW THAT IT
WOULD SPARK WAR AND THEY'RE NOT
READY TO GO TO WAR WITH RUSSIA.
>> OKAY THANKS TRICKLES TRICKY.
YEAH. WELL IT'S ALL INCREDIBLY
TREY I'M GLAD I LITERALLY I
SAID HERE AS WE TALK THAT
BECAUSE THEY THEY ARE SO MANY
DIPLOMATIC NEEDLES AND TO BE SO
CAREFULLY THREAD
THREADED FROM ALL THESE
IT IS SO PRECARIOUS INCREDIBLY
TRICKY OK SO MY LAST QUESTION
TO YOU BEFORE I HAD TIME ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN. WHAT WE
NEED TO KNOW ABOUT HOW OR WHAT
RUSSIA HAS SAID WITH REGARDS TO
CHINA'S
RELATIONSHIP THAT TAIWAN WHICH
IS NOW SORT OF THE OTHER SIDE
OF THE RUSSIA OR CHINA VERSUS
RUSSIA AND UKRAINE STORY.
RUSSIA HAS BEEN A BIT MORE
VOCAL AND ON THE RECORD ABOUT
IT RIGHT.
>> WELL, YES, BUT BUT BUT
FAINTLY SO THEY ARE YES, BUT
BUT IT'S VAGUE AND THAT THEY
SUPPORT CHINA. THE REASON THE
SUPPORT CHINA'S ESPECIALLY.
IT IS AFTER 2014 AFTER
2014 WHEN RUSSIA ANNEXED CRIMEA
EXPERTS SUPPORTING SEPARATISTS
IN UKRAINE AND RUSSIA WAS
ISOLATED FROM THE REST OF THE
WORLD SANCTIONS AND SO ON
THEY TURNED TO CHINA FOR TRADE
SO THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF
CHINA HAS BECOME VERY POSITIVE
IN RUSSIA, THEIR RELATIONSHIP
STARTED TO GROW.
IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S PERFECT
THEY DO STILL HAVE ISSUES ALONG
THEIR THE RIGHTS OF THESE ARE
NOT PERFECT FRIENDS
OF COURSE, HOWEVER, THE KIND OF
SAW EACH OTHER THIS SOLACE
RIGHT TO IT, I'M ALL FOR
DICTATORS IS WHAT I LIKE TO
SAY SO SO THEY'RE IN A
SITUATION SO THE RUSSIANS THE
KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE
CHINA'S COMING FROM GIVEN
RUSSIA'S OWN BEHAVIOR TOWARD
CRIMEA
IN PARTICULAR WHERE THEY KIND
OF SAY LIKE WELL WE GET IT,
IT'S IT'S NOT INDEPENDENT IT
SHOULDN'T BE DEPENDED WE
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ONE
CHINA AND THAT YOU ARE YOU.
PRESIDENT XI THAT YOU'RE THE
REAL CHINA RIGHT SO SO THEY
HAVE BEEN MORE FORWARD LEANING
ON THAT. BUT IT'S ALSO IT'S NOT
GOING TO GO TO THE POINT
WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO RUN TO
CHINA'S DEFENSE IF CHINA PAX
TIE WANT THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT
IT IS NOT LEE AND ALLIANCE WITH
TO BE VERY
CAREFUL THERE. THERE'S A LITTLE
BIT OF PR THERE. BUT THERE ARE
ALSO STEPS THAT COULD BE VERY
CONCERNING AND YOU KNOW TO HIT
BACK ONE FINAL POINT ON THE
UKRAINE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED
PREVIOUSLY. THE TIMING OF THIS
VIDEO TELECONFERENCE CALL
IT'S NOT GOING TO DENTAL RIGHT
IT IS
COMING A WEEK AFTER PRESIDENT
BIDEN CAME OUT VERY TOUGH AND
EUROPEAN COUNTRIES AS WELL COME
OUT VERY TOUGH AGAINST
PRESIDENT PUTIN TELLING HIM TO
STAND OUT TO BE CAREFUL
OR ELSE FACE TOUGH ECONOMIC
CONSEQUENCES AND PRESIDENT
PUTIN IS TRYING TO PLACE CARTS.
>> SLOW CLAP FOR THE ROCK STAR
THAT YOU ARE MY GOOD FRIEND
NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE
SHOW GARZA MY HOST OF ALL MY
WORLD ANEW TO PLEASE WATCH IT