>> WELCOME BACK TO YOU IN
BELL'S NEW DOCUMENTARY IS
TAKING A DEEPER LOOK AT THE
RISE AND FALL OF HEDGE FUND
MANAGER
MARTIN SHKRELI PHARMA BRO TELLS
A STORY OF THE PHARMACEUTICAL
GIANT KNOWN FOR RAISING THE
PRICE OF AN AIDS
DRUG OVERNIGHT, BUYING THE SOLE
COPY OF A WU-TANG CLAN ALBUM
FOR 2 MILLION DOLLARS. AND
BEING CONVICTED OF SECURITIES
FRAUD TAKE A LOOK.
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>> THE BODY HAS THE POWER TO
BECOME FAMOUS FOR DOING
SOMETHING DISTRICT. MISTER
SHKRELI TO THINK YOU'VE DONE
ANYTHING WRONG.
>> AND MY 5TH AMENDMENT
PRIVILEGE.
AGAINST SELF-INCRIMINATION AND
RESPECTFULLY DECLINE TO ANSWER
YOUR QUESTION.
>> JOINING US NOW BRAD HODGE
FILMMAKER AND DIRECTOR OF
PHARMA BRO BRENT WELCOME TO TO
SHOW YOU GOT ME I CAN'T WAIT TO
WATCH THIS.
ASK YOU WHAT MAKES CORELLI
DEEMED AS QUOTE BECAUSE WE'VE
HEARD THIS BEFORE ESPECIALLY
WHEN THE STORY BROKE THE MOST
HATED MAN IN AMERICA.
>> I MEAN THE START OF THE DRUG
PRICE RIGHT THE RAYS AND THAT
HE IT'S 6 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK
THAT HE
RAISED IT. 5,000% FOR DARAPRIM
A DRUG FOR HIV PATIENTS.
SO I THINK IF YOU
DO THAT.
>> YOU COULD YOU COULD BE EVIL
IT QUALIFIES
AS EVIL.
>> OH YEAH, I REMEMBER THOSE
PRICED THOSE PRICES JUMPING
HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS
OF DOLLARS. NOW DO YOUR
RESEARCH FOR THIS FILM ARE YOU
ABLE TO FIND OUT WHY IS
CURRENTLY ACTED LIKE THIS WAS A
PURELY GREED IS IT ONE OF THOSE
SITUATIONS ARE THE ONLY USE HIS
POWERS FOR GOOD COULD THAT MEAN
IT'S OBVIOUS HE'S AN
INTELLIGENT MAN.
>> IT'S HARD, I MEAN I THINK
UNLIKE OTHER DRUG COMPANIES HE
CAME OUT AND
JUST STARTED THE SHOULD HAVE A
PR PERSON AS
WE SHOULD. THAT WE STIR AND
COVER A LOT MORE RESEARCH TO
UNDERSTAND WHERE HE'S FROM WE
GO BACK TO SCROLL ALBANIA WHERE
HIS FAMILY IS FROM
TALK TO EX-GIRLFRIENDS WE
TALKED TO LIEUTENANT WE TALKED
TO HIS LAWYER WILL TALK TO
PATIENTS WHO'VE BEEN AFFECTED
BY THIS. SO WE REALLY STARTED
DIVE DEEP ON ON ALL OF IT TO
SORT OF GET MORE OF AN
UNDERSTANDING WHAT WHAT WHAT
THE MOMENT WHERE YOU THOUGHT TO
YOURSELF. THIS IS A STORY THAT
NEEDS TO BE TOLD.
I WENT ONLINE AND GOOGLE HIS
NAME AND WITHIN 2 CLICKS I WAS
ON A LIVE STREAM AND HE WAS
THERE AND HE WAS ANSWERING ALL
YOUR QUESTIONS
HOW AND WHAT YEAH RATE THAT AND
I WAS LIKE I COULD MAKE A
DOCUMENTARY BUT JUST RECORDING
THIS HE'S HERE IS IS THIS IS
THE MOST ACCESSIBLE HUMAN BEING
IN THE WORLD AND WHY IS NOBODY
TALKING TO HIM AND THAT WAS
SORT OF THE THE REASON BEHIND
ALL OF AND THEN I KIND OF GOT
OBSESSED AND GOT INTO WHY HE
WHY EVEN LIVE STREAMS IN THE
FIRST PLACE IS THIS A
PERSONA ON IS HE REALLY EVIL.
WE JUST STARTED DOUGH FROM
THERE DOWN THE
RABBIT HOLE.
>> YOU WENT DEEP UNDERCOVER FOR
THIS FILM, YOU FOLLOW HIM
AROUND HERE IN NEW YORK CITY
YOU ACT OBVIOUSLY JOIN HIS LIFE
DREAMS EVEN MOVED INTO THE
APARTMENT BUILDING WOW
OKAY BRETT BEST METHOD TO
CREATE THIS DOCUMENTARY AND
WHAT WAS HIS APARTMENT BUILDING
LIKE.
>> I MEAN IT WAS THAT WAS THAT
WAS FUNNY AS HE WOULD SAY CALL
I MEAN YOU KNOW, HERE'S MY
ADDRESS COME SEE ME
YOU KNOW ALL RIGHT IF YOU'RE IF
YOU'RE IF IT IS OPEN
INVITATION, LET'S LET'S FIGURE
OUT WHO YOU ARE A LITTLE MORE.
I THINK TALKING TO THE PEOPLE
AROUND 10 WE'VE GOT HIS FRIEND
WE HAVE THE JOURNALIST CHRISTIE
SMYTH IN THERE WHO HAVE A LOT
OF INTEREST NOW AT THE THOSE
ARE THE TYPE OF PEOPLE
THAT REALLY NO HIM THE THERE'S
A GUY IN THIS FILM BELIEVE THAT
FRENCH IN MY FAVORITE
INTERVIEW, IT'S IT'S ONE OF HIS
FRIENDS ONLINE. THESE THESE
PEOPLE KNOW HIM SAID THAT
THEY SPOKE SO YOU KNOW ABOUT
HIM THE MOST I'D SAY
WAS THERE.
>> ANYTHING ABOUT MARTIN AND
HIS STORY THAT REALLY SURPRISED
YOU IN THE FILMMAKING PROCESS,
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE AT LEAST IT
SEEMS THAT HE WAS BEING
RELATIVELY TRANSPARENT.
YEAH, I HONESTLY I THINK HE'S
THE SMARTEST GUY WHO MAKES
REALLY DUMB DECISIONS LIKE HE'S
A REALLY INTELLIGENT PERSON.
THE FACT THAT HE CAME FROM
WHERE E IS
FROM AN AND SIR ROSE IN THE
RANKS AND GOT TO WHAT WAS HIS
IS AN INCREDIBLE FEAT BUT THEN
HOW DO YOU GET YOURSELF PUT IN
JAIL SO QUICKLY FROM JUST BEING
AN WHOLE LIKE IT'S IT'S IT'S A
WEIRD SORT OF JUXTAPOSITION
WITH THIS GUY
SMARTEST GUY IN THE WORLD CAN
TO MAKE SOME REALLY
DUMB CHOICES.
>> TO THAT POINT PROUST PRICE
GOUGING IS NOTHING NEW IN THIS
COUNTRY, MANY PEOPLE ARE FOR
ASIANS HAVE DONE IT THEY'VE
HIGH PRICES ON DRUGS WHY DO YOU
THINK MARTIN CAME UNDER SO MUCH
SCRUTINY.
I THINK BECAUSE HE PUT HIMSELF
FORWARD I MEAN MOST OF THESE
DRUG COMPANIES
HAVE PR TEAMS AND THERE'S NO
INDIVIDUAL THAT YOU CAN POINT
TO AND BLAME THIS GUY CAME OUT
OF THE SPOTLIGHT AND WAS LIKE I
DID THE PRICE INCREASE AFFECT
TO DO IT AGAIN I WOULD I WOULD
INCREASE
IT MORE.
>> AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO
ME I'M ON MY LIFE STREAM
ONLINE. I'M SO EXCESS A BULL
AND NO ONE DOES THAT AND I
THINK THAT'S THE
MAIN REASON. THERE'S A LITTLE
MORE TO ANYTHING THE WAY HE
REACTED ACTS ONLINE THAT
ROLLING THAT DOESN'T
REALLY HELP. YOU KNOW SEEN LIKE
A CEO
THAT THAT BUT YOU THAT YOU'RE
ROOTING FOR IN THIS IN THIS YOU
KNOW YOU THERE'S A LOT OF SORT
OF COMPLEX CITIES TO THAT BUT
IT'S PROBABLY OF PEOPLE SKILL
THING IS AS MUCH OF A PRICE
RISES
ANYTHING ELSE. YEAH COULD THAT
CHARISMA IS PRETTY MUCH A VERY
VERY HARD
TO MATCH.
>> TECHNICALLY WHAT MARTIN WAS
DOING RAISING THOSE PRICES
ISN'T A LEGAL SIDE YOU WANT TO
ASK YOU IN THE BROAD ISSUE HERE
WITH THIS WITH THIS COUNTRY AND
BIG PHARMA.
>> WELL THIS WAS
CRAZY ABOUT THIS MOVIE AND
ABOUT THIS EXPLORATION OF THE
GETTING TO KNOW THIS INDIVIDUAL
AND SORT OF AN EXPERIMENT IN
IT. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT
FROM A FARMER PERSPECTIVE,
NOTHING HAS CHANGED THE PRICE
OF DARAPRIM STILL $750
A PILL. SO ALL OF THIS
MARTIN THE WU TANG ALBUM GOING
TO JAIL OWN
NOT MATTER IS BECAUSE THE PILL
IS STILL THE EXACT SAME PRICE
FROM WHERE WE STARTED SO YEAH
THERE'S A MASSIVE PROBLEM.
I DO HOPE OUR FILM.
THE SHED LIGHT IT'S FUNNY IT'S
EXPERIMENTAL IT'S POP CULTURE
AND ITS FINEST, BUT THERE IS A
PROBLEM DRUG PRICING HERE AND
THAT SORT OF LIKE THE
UNDERLYING MESSAGE.
>> IT'S CURRENTLY SERVING A
SEVEN-YEAR SENTENCE FOR LYING
TO INVESTORS ABOUT THE
PERFORMANCE OF 2 HEDGE FUNDS.
HE RAN. YOU'VE DONE SO MUCH
RESEARCH ON HIM DO YOU THINK
WHEN HE COMES OUT HE MAY HAVE
LEARNED A LESSON DO EXPECT HIM
TO ACT THE SAME.
>> I'VE NO IDEA MAYBE THAT'S
PHARMA BRO PART TO LIGHT NEXT
WHO KNOWS I WE'LL SEE ANY OF
THAT 7 YEARS LATER WE WERE IN A
DIFFERENT COUNTRY NOW WE HAVE
DIFFERENT
>> VERY QUICKLY DO YOU THINK
HE'LL REACH OUT TO YOU AFTER HE
WATCHING THAT I'M SURE HE WILL
WATCH THIS IS NO DENYING IT.
YOU THINK HE'LL REACH OUT.
>> NOW I MEAN I THINK NOW I
REALLY DON'T I THINK THAT'S THE
SORT OF THE FUNNY PART OF IT IS
LIKE MAYBE LEAVING LIKE IT
BECAUSE IT LOVES ATTENTION AND
WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR
YOU KNOW I WOULD SAY WE TOLD
THE FULL STORY OF MARTIN
SHKRELI THAT THAT'S AN EXCITING