>> WELCOME BACK TO CHEDDAR
POLITICS, I'M MEGAN PRATZ IN
WASHINGTON DC. WEDNESDAY WAS
NOT SUCH A GREAT DAY FOR THOSE
WHO BELIEVE IN ABORTION RIGHTS
IN THIS COUNTRY AS THE SUPREME
COURT HEARD ARGUMENTS
ON HIM MISSISSIPPI ABORTION LAW
THAT BANS MOST ABORTIONS AFTER
15 WEEKS OF PREGNANCY. THE
MAJORITY OF THE COURT APPEARS
POISED TO ROLL BACK
ABORTION RIGHTS AND THE
QUESTIONS FROM THE CONSERVATIVE
JUSTICES SEEMED TO INDICATE THE
LAW FOR NEARLY 50 YEARS
IS ABOUT TO CHANGE SO JOINING
US NOW TO DISCUSS MORE IS
SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT AND
EXECUTIVE EDITOR OF
REWIRE NEWS. JESSICA MASON PEAK
LOW. SHE IS ALSO THE CO-HOST OF
THE REWIRE NEWS HIS GROUP
PODCAST BOOM LAWYER THANK YOU
FOR JOINING US TODAY, JESSICA,
LET'S GET YOUR REACTION HOW DO
YOU FEEL LIKE THE HEARING.
>> IT WAS A DIFFICULT DAY FOR
ABORTION RIGHTS SUPPORTERS OF
THE SUPREME COURT. WITHOUT A
DOUBT IT IS CLEAR THAT
THE CONCERN THE MAJORITY OF
JUSTICES ON THE SUPREME COURT
ARE INTENT ON CHANGING ABORTION
RIGHTS LAW IN THIS COUNTRY HOW
FAR THEY WILL CHANGE IT REMAINS
TO BE SEEN.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT ROE
V WADE IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE
THE BIG QUESTION IS ALWAYS
WILL THEY OVERTURN ROE VERSUS
WADE WILL THIS BE THE CASE THAT
OVERTURNS ROE VERSUS WADE AND
THAT'S WHAT WE DIDN'T GET A
GREAT SENSE OF
YESTERDAY WAS WHETHER OR NOT IT
WILL BE THE CASE THAT OVERTURNS
THAT ARE THEY GOING TO STOP AT
A 15 WEEK KIND OF BAN. I'M
GOING TO ASK YOU YOUR CRYSTAL
BALL A
LITTLE BIT LISTENING TO THE
SORT OF BETWEEN THE LINES FROM
THE JUSTICE AS AND THE THE
QUESTIONS THEY ASKED IN THE
RESPONSES
THEY GOT DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF
HOW MUCH THEY MAY ROLL THINGS
BACK.
>> IF THE CONSERVATIVES ON THE
SUPREME COURT WANT TO REVERSE
ROE VERSUS WADE THEY ABSOLUTELY
CAN WITH
THIS CASE. SO THE ONLY THING
STOPPING THEM TRULY IS
POLITICAL WILL. AT THIS POINT
TO DO SO AND SO BUT LET'S TALK
ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS AND HOW
THIS CASE GOT HERE BECAUSE
THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION
ROUND OF HOLDING THE
MISSISSIPPI LAW AND NOT
OVERTURNING ROE
VERSUS WADE AND FUNCTIONALLY
THOSE 2 THINGS CAN ACTUALLY
EXIST IN THE SAME UNIT. SO WHAT
HAPPENED HERE IS MISSISSIPPI
PATH PASSED A LAW THAT BANS AS
YOU SAID MOST ABORTIONS AT 15
WEEKS UNDER ROE VERSUS WADE AND
PLANNED PARENTHOOD VERSUS CASEY
THIS IS CLEARLY
UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THAT'S
BECAUSE AT 15 WEEKS OF
PREGNANCY IS INVITED ALL AND
THAT CASE LAW SAYS THAT STATES
CAN'T BAN ABORTION BEFORE
VIABILITY. SO THAT'S A CLEAR
LINE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS
BEEN IN EFFECT FOR YOU KNOW
DECADES NOW AND EVEN
CONSERVATIVE COURTS HAVE REALLY
NOT I HAD AN ISSUE APPLYING IT
IF IT'S A PRE VIABILITY BAN
ROWLING CASEY SAYS IT'S
UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND EVEN WHEN
MISSISSIPPI FIRST WENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT WITH THIS CASE
THEY DID ASK THE COURT OUTRIGHT
HIS TO OVERTURN ROE AND CASEY
AT FIRST WHAT THEY DID WAS
ASK THAT COURT TO UPHOLD ITS 15
WEEK BAN UNDER ROE AND CASEY TO
SO BASICALLY TO SAY THAT 15
WERE WEAK AND COMPORT WITH
CURRENT LAW BUT THEN A VERY
IMPORTANT THING HAPPENED
BETWEEN THE TIME THAT
MISSISSIPPI FILED IT FIRST
REQUEST AND THE COURT AGREED TO
TAKE THE CASE JUSTICE RUTH
BADER GINSBURG I DIDN'T JUSTICE
AMY CONEY BARRETT WAS NOMINATED
AND APPOINTED TO THE SUPREME
COURT, THE MAKEUP CHANGED
CONSIDERABLY AND FROM THAT TIME
MISSISSIPPI WINDS TO FROM
ASKING THE SUPREME COURT TO
UPHOLD A SPAN UNDER EXISTING
LAW TO REVERSE ROE ENTIRELY AND
AFTER WEDNESDAY'S ARGUMENTS IT
LOOKS LIKE THE COURT IS POISED
TO DO SO.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT
JUSTICE BARRETT RIGHT THAT THIS
IS HER FIRST TIME HEARING THE
TYPE OF MAJOR ABORTION CASE.
SHE WAS PLACED ON THE COURT
LARGELY BEAK HAS SHE IS NOT IN
FAVOR OF ABORTION RIGHTS SHE IS
SORT OF
THE VOTE. IT MAY OVERTURN THIS,
BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR HOW SHE'LL
VOTE NECESSARY LOTS OF
QUESTIONING ABOUT ADOPTION FROM
HER YESTERDAY WHICH I
I THOUGHT WAS VERY INTERESTING
AND VERY PERSONAL OBVIOUSLY SHE
HAS 2 CHILDREN WHO ARE ADOPTED,
BUT BUT LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT HER AND WHAT
IT WOULD MEAN IF A FEMALE
JUSTICE A WOMAN JUSTICE DIDN'T
VOTE TO UPHOLD ROE V WADE.
>> YEAH, THIS IS A REALLY ANY
THIS HAS BEEN THE
ISSUE OR.
>> BROWN AMY CONEY BARRETT
NOMINATION AND CONFIRMATION IS
IN COURT FOR
THE BEGINNING CONSERVATIVES
WANTED HER ON THE COURT BECAUSE
REVERSING ABORTION RIGHTS
REVERSING ROE
VERSUS WADE IS ONE OF THEIR
SINGULAR POLICY CALLS BUT THEY
ALSO KNOW THAT IS A COUNTER
MAJORITY CHERIAN POSSIBLE AND
WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN BY THAT THE
MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THIS
COUNTRY VASTLY SUPPORT ABORTION
RIGHTS. THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE
IN STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY
SUPPORT
ABORTION RIGHTS, NOT SUPPORTING
ABORTION RIGHTS IS A MINORITY
HELD POSITION IN THIS COUNTRY.
OVERTURNING ROE VERSUS WADE
WILL BE EXTREMELY UNPOPULAR.
SO CONSERVATIVES NEED TO PUT AN
ACCEPTABLE FACE AROUND THAT AND
THE PLAY THAT THEY BELIEVE
IS TOO HAVE AMY CONEY BARRETT
AS PART OF THAT AND YOU'VE
HEARD IT IN THE QUESTIONING IT
IS NO COINCIDENCE THAT HE COULD
EITHER AS AN ADOPTIVE MOTHER
WAS ASKING THE KINDS OF
QUESTIONS THAT SHE DID ABOUT
SAFE HAVEN LAWS SAFE HAVEN
LAWS ALLOW PARENTS TO ABANDON
THEIR NEWLY DELIVER CHILD FOR
UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME
WITHOUT ANY THREAT OF
PROSECUTION FOR A CHILD
ENDANGERMENT NEGLECT.
ABANDONMENT THOSE KINDS OF
THINGS BUT
IT DOES ACTION IS NOT A
SUBSTITUTE FOR ABORTION
ADOPTION IS ONE POSSIBLE
OUTCOME OF THE PREGNANCY AS IS
ABORTION. AND WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT THE BURDENS THAT PEOPLE
WHO CAN BECOME PREGNANT THERE.
IT IS NOT JUST A PARENTING
BURTON, WHICH IS WHAT ANY CONEY
BARRETT WAS TRYING
TO GET YEAH THEY'RE THE BURDENS
OF THE PHYSICALITY OF PREGNANCY
THAT IS A MAJOR LIFE CHANGING
EVENT AND EVEN IF YOU WANT
TO HAVE THE BABY AND YOUR
PREGNANCY FAILS AND AS A RESULT
YOU NEED
AN ABORTION. MOCKING UP THOSE
WATERS BY JUSTICE BARRETT WAS
VERY INTENTIONAL. AND IT
ALSO SPOKE A THING TO THE FACT
THAT SHE KNOWS WHAT HER ROLE IS
ON THE COURT HERE.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT
ANOTHER NEWER JUSTICE FROM THE
TRUMP ERA AND THAT'S JUSTICE
KAVANAUGH WHO OF COURSE HAD A
VERY CONTENTIOUS AND
CONTROVERSIAL APPOINTMENTS AND
NOMINATION HEARING PROCESS AND
THEN ULTIMATELY WAS CONFIRMED
TO BE A ONE
SINGLE VOTE FROM SENATOR SUSAN
COLLINS WHO RELEASED A
STATEMENT YESTERDAY THING THAT
SHE SUPPORTS KIND OF FINE ROE V
WADE WHICH THE SENATE DOESN'T
HAVE THE VOTES FOR
SO I'VE GIVEN A LOT OF HISTORY
THERE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS HE
KEPT TALKING ABOUT WAS THE
NEUTRALITY OF THE COURT WHAT
DID YOU READ INTO THAT
STATEMENT BECAUSE TO ME RIGHT
NOW THE COURT IS CLEARLY
NOT NEUTRAL.
>> RIGHT. WE HAVE A VERY
SOLIDLY CONSERVATIVE
LEANING MAJORITY. WHY DO YOU
THINK THIS IS SORT OF THE
TERMINOLOGY THAT WE'RE HEARING
FROM ONE OF THESE
CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES.
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION
BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A LOADED IT
CAME IN THE LINE OF QUESTIONING
THE JUSTICE KAVANAUGH WAS DOING
ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY
LOOK LIKE TO OVERTURN PRESIDENT
AND SO HE LISTED A BUNCH OF
CASES WHERE THE THE COURT HAS
OVERTURNED PRESIDENT BEFORE AND
SAID YOU KNOW WHY ISN'T THIS
RICK TURN TO NEUTRALITY AND
SOME OF THOSE REALLY
GERRYMANDERING CASES AND
OTHER LEG. CASES IMPORTANTLY,
THOSE WERE NOT CASES INVOLVING
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS WHICH JUSTICE
BRIAR PUSHED BACK AT SO IN
TERMS OF WHAT IS YOU KNOW
KAVANAUGH WAS
A MOTIVATION AND IS IN THE IN
THE LINE OF QUESTIONING HERE
YOU KNOW I THINK THE JUDGE IS
THAT WERE NOMINATED AND
APPOINTED DURING THE TRUMP
PRESIDENCY FEEL VERY HUGHLEY
THAT THE ATTENTION IS ON THEN
INTO TERMS OF THE LEGITIMACY OF
THE POOR AND VERY RIGHTLY, SO
I'M I'M GLAD THAT SENATOR SUSAN
COLLINS SAYS THAT SHE
SUPPORTS CODIFY AND ROE VERSUS
WADE BECAUSE THE ENTIRE ISSUE
AROUND KAVANAUGH'S NOMINATION
AND CONFIRMATION WAS WHETHER OR
NOT HE WOULD BE A DECIDING
VOTE TOO TURN ABORTION RIGHTS
AND IT'S CLEAR BASED ON HIS
QUESTIONING THAT HE IS HE WAS
NOT LOOKING FOR A WAY TO UPHOLD
THE STATUS QUO. HE WAS LOOKING
FOR A WAY TO
CHANGE THAT AND THAT IS NOT
REMAINING NEUTRAL ON ABORTION.
THE COURT REMAINING NEUTRAL ON
ABORTION WOULD HAVE NEVER WOULD
HAVE BEEN THE COURT NEVER
TAKING THIS CASE TO BEGIN WITH
BECAUSE THERE'S NOT US
SINGLE FEDERAL APPEALS COURT
THAT IS CONFUSED ABOUT WHETHER
15 WEEK ABORTION BANS ARE
CONSTITUTIONAL. THEY ALL SAID
THAT THEY ARE PATENTLY
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THE COURT BY
TAKING
THIS CASE ABSOLUTELY LET US ALL
KNOW THAT IT'S NOT NEUTRAL ON
ABORTION AND ANY RULING THAT IT
THAT IT HANDS DOWN IN THIS CASE
WILL NOT BE AS WELL.
>> SO JUST CAME JUST A FAIR
AMOUNT OF TIME BUT WE'LL
DEFINITELY BE HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION