>> WELCOME BACK TO BETWEEN
BELLS FOR WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH
AND CHEDDAR IS SHINING LIGHT ON
THE MANY CONTRIBUTIONS OF WOMEN
WHO ARE TRAILBLAZERS AND
BREAKING THE
GLASS CEILING, PUSHING FOR MORE
OPPORTUNITIES AND HELPING TO
MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES MORE EQUAL
WELL AND IT'S NOT A CELEBRATION
OF WOMEN'S HISTORY WITHOUT
RECOGNIZING
THE IMPACT AND POWER OF OUR
MOTHERS, OUR NEXT GUESTS ARE
THE CO-HOSTS A PODCAST THAT NEW
MOM LIE. I COVER STATIONS ABOUT
THE POSTPARTUM EXPERIENCE,
INCLUDING SLEEP, DEPRIVATION
AND
BODY CHANGES. SO IMPORTANT TO
SHARE THIS AND JOINING US NOW
OUR CO-HOST GRACE TO SEE THIS
AND IS REPORTING. GRAY SAYS
RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
JOINING
US TODAY. CHRIS I WANT TO GO
AHEAD AND START WITH YOU WHAT
ARE SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT
LISTENERS WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR
WITH YOUR PODCAST CAN EXPECT TO
HEAR MORE ABOUT ON MOTHERHOOD.
>> HUMAN LIFE WAS REALLY
BORN TO REMIND YOU PARENTS THAT
THEY ARE NOT ALONE, ESPECIALLY
DURING THIS TIME OF
EXTREME ISOLATION. SO NO TOPIC
IS OFF LIMITS. WE
TALK ABOUT SLEEP DEPRIVATION
HOW YOUR BODY CHANGES AFTER
MAKING THE MOM FRIENDS HOW TO
NAVIGATE THE PATH
AND TEEN LOAD AND SHARE THAT
RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU HAVE A
PARTNER AND WE HEAR THROUGHOUT
FROM REAL MOMS IN THE TRENCHES
WHO ARE GOING THROUGH ALL
OF IT IT IS AND REALLY DRAW
INSPIRATION FROM THEIR STORIES
AND WE ALSO TALKED TO EXPERTS
IN THE
POSTPARTUM WORLD WHO SHARE IN
VALUABLE ADVICE, ESPECIALLY
RIGHT NOW WHEN WE NEED IT MOST.
>> AND IS THERE A GRACE JUST
MENTION THAT OVERWHELMING
FEELING OF ISOLATION THAT I
THINK ALL OF US
ARE EXPERIENCING. BUT IT CAN BE
ESPECIALLY CRIPPLING FOR NEW
MOMS,
NEW PARENTS SO HOW ARE YOU
HELPING YOUR LISTENERS TO FEEL
MORE SEEN AND HEARD DURING THIS
TIME.
>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GREAT
ABOUT THE PODCAST IS JUST LIKE
GRACE
OF GOD AND WE'RE NOT ONLY JUST
HAVING THESE WONDERFUL EXPERTS
ON BUT WE'RE ALSO HAVING MOM
SHARE THEIR
STORIES AND BEING ABLE TO JUST
SHARE I EVEN LIKE ONE
EXPERIENCE ONE ANOTHER MOM CAN
SAY OH MY GOSH I HAVE THAT
HAPPENED TO ME TOO.
REMINDS YOU THAT YOU'RE NOT
ALONE IN EVERY LITTLE PART OF
THAT
MOTHERHOOD SEASON. ESPECIALLY
AT WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN
EXPERIENCING LAST YEAR BECAUSE
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
ISOLATION AND AND IT'S IT'S
AMAZING TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT
WITH. OTHERS
KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED
WALKING THROUGH MOTHERHOOD IN
THE MIDST OF POSTPARTUM AND
SLEEP DEPRIVATION AND GOING
CRAZY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
NIGHT AND LACTATION ALL OF IT,
YOU KNOW.
>> ABSOLUTELY AND I
THINK PARTICULARLY FOR
POSTPARTUM IT'S ONE OF THOSE
ISSUES THAT
REALLY HASN'T GOTTEN ENOUGH
LIGHT SHED ON IT UNTIL EVEN
RECENT YEARS. GRACE, I WANT TO
TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE RECENT
EPISODE. YOU DID ON POSTPARTUM
THE HIGHS AND LOWS
WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT THAT
EXPERIENCE FOR SO MANY MOMS AND
IT WAS THERE SOMETHING NEW THAT
YOU TOOK AWAY FROM THAT
EPISODE.
>> I LEARNED SO MUCH IN MAINE,
NEW MOMS ARE GOING
THROUGH THIS EMOTIONAL ROLLER
COASTER AND IT'S OK AND IT'S
PERFECTLY NORMAL AND ONE DAY
YOU CAN FEEL A
CERTAIN WAY AND FEEL
DIFFERENTLY THE
AND YOU KNOW ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT THINGS THAT OUR GUEST
OUT DOCTOR, ALEXANDER SACHS
SAID IS YOU'RE NOT ALONE ARE
NOT THE ONLY ONE GOING THROUGH
THIS AND IF SOMETHING DOES NOT
FEEL RIGHT GET HELP
SPEAK UP AND JUST SAY SOMETHING
IS WRONG THAT WAS A REALLY
GREAT EPISODE BECAUSE MOMS ARE
GOING THROUGH
THIS HUGE IDENTITY SHIFT DURING
THIS TIME THAT ALSO BRINGS THE
PHYSICAL CHANGES HORMONAL
CHANGES
EMOTIONAL CHANGES. SO IT'S ALL
EXPECTED, YOU KNOW ALL THESE
DIFFERENT FEELINGS THAT YOU MAY
EXPERIENCE.
>> DESERAE WHAT'S THE BEST
ADVICE THAT YOU GLEAN SO FAR
FROM THIS PROCESS OPPOSING THE
PODCAST.
>> I GOT YOU KNOW EVERY TIME WE
DO AN EPISODE I FEEL LIKE
THERE'S ALWAYS LIKE SOMETHING
THAT I'M TAKING AWAY FROM EACH
EXPERT AND IT'S REALLY IN
THIS SEASON. I'M IN AND
MOTHERHOOD IT'S REALLY NICE TO
KNOW THAT I'M NOT ALONE THAT
FOR ME OF THAT EPISODE THAT
STUCK OUT THE MOST IT WAS WHEN
INTERVIEW ERICA, CAMPBELL AND.
BREASTFEEDING FOR 5 MONTHS AND
HAS BEEN THE HARDEST
THING EVER.
>> AND SO MANY PEOPLE YOU HEAR
LAKERS TO BE SOME NATURAL, BUT
IT'S NOT NATURAL AND TO JUST BE
REMINDED THAT.
I HOWEVER IN FEEDING MY BABY,
I'M DOING A GREAT JOB I
JUST FELT REALLY SUPPORTED BY
HER MESSAGE AND ENCOURAGED TO
TRY NEW THINGS THAT SHE WAS
SHARING AND I
THINK THAT A LOT OF MOMS WHEN
THEY FIRST TO HAVE THEIR BABIES
THEY'RE SEEING CAN BE REALLY
TAP INTO JUST HAVE SOLIDARITY
TO
KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED IN
THE STRUGGLE IS IS IT'S JUST
HUGE IS WHAT WE NEED ON OUR
JOURNEYS.
>> AND GRACE REALLY QUICKLY
BEFORE WE LET YOU TO GO WE KNOW
THAT MUCH THERE'S HAVE BEEN HIT
DURING THIS PANDEMIC WHEN IT
COMES TO
TAKING ON THE RESPONSIBILITIES
OF CHILDCARE AND ALSO WORKING
WHAT HAS IT BEEN LIKE
FOR YOU TO BALANCE ALL OF THE
DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF WHAT IT
MEANS TO BE A WORKING MOM
DURING THIS PANDEMIC.
>> THAT HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST
CHALLENGE FOR ME, YOU KNOW
BALANCE SCENE.
>> WORK AND MOTHERHOOD AND
REMOTE LEARNING.
>> ALL FOR MY NEW YORK CITY
APARTMENT, YOU KNOW TIGHT
QUARTERS AND ALSO IT'S FEELING
LIKE SOMETHING'S GOING TO FALL
THROUGH THE I'VE HAD TO
PRACTICE PATIENCE WHICH I
BELIEVE I'M GOOD AT NOW.
AND WE'VE GOTTEN INTO A RHYTHM
BUT THAT DOES NOT I MEAN IT'S
GOTTEN ANY EASIER WE'VE JUST
LEARNED TO ADAPTING AND THAT'S