>> WELCOME
BACK BETWEEN ABOUT YES. OKAY
WAS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE NANCY
PELOSI CALLING FOR THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO FILE
ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT THIS ME
MORNING AND JOINING US NOW IS
GINGER GIBSON. POLITICAL
CORRESPONDENT FROM REUTERS SAID
GINGER AT THIS POINT IT SEEMS
LIKE THIS WAS A MERE FORMALITY
FROM THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE
RIGHT.
>> IT APPEAR THAT EARLIER THIS
YEAR THE TRAIN LEFT THE STATION
AND THERE WAS LITTLE THAT COULD
BE DONE TO STOP THIS WAS A
PROCESS THAT WAS IN MOTION AND
THAT WE SUSPECTED
WHAT QUICKLY HER INTO ARTICLES
OF IMPEACHMENT. YESTERDAY'S
HEARING IN THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE WAS MEANT TO HAVE.
THE LEGAL DEBATE ABOUT WHAT
THEY SHOULD DO TO MOVE FORWARD
AND TO BE THE FRAMEWORK IT
WOULD BE USED TO CRAFT BE
ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT AND
THAT IS IN FACT NOW, BUT THEY
ARE GOING TO DO.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON THE
TIMELINE THAT NANCY PELOSI HAD
ESSENTIALLY DEVISED ON THIS
MORNING TO GET THIS DONE AS
QUICKLY
AS POSSIBLE. SO GINGER, DO YOU
THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A VOTE
ON AT LEAST ON THE HOUSE SIDE
BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
>> I WOULD EXPECT THAT WE STILL
COULD SEE A VOTE IN THE
HOUSE BEFORE FOR THEY'RE GOING
TO WANT TO GET THIS DONE
QUICKLY, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT
BE SURE TO TRY TO GET THE
PROCESS MOVING IN
THE SENATE TO ALLOW THOSE
NUMBERS OF THE SENATE RUNNING
FOR PRESIDENT TO BE ABLE TO BE
IN IOWA. WHEN THEY VOTE
FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY THAT
MIGHT NOT HAPPEN BUT THEY'RE
MOVING QUICKLY, THERE SEEMS TO
BE A LITTLE DOUBT THAT THE
HOUSE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO
MOVE ON AND OTHER
THAN THAT THEY CONTROL THE
FLOOR SO OTHERS NOT MUCH
PROCEDURE THAT COULD GET IN
THEIR WAY IN.
>> JUDICIARY CHAIR JERRY NOW
BEEN MENTIONING THE MUELLER
CASE YESTERDAY IS IT A MISTAKE
FOR DEMOCRATS TO EXPAND THE
INVESTIGATION AND THESE
ARTICLES
OF IN OF IMPEACHMENT TO JUST BE
ON THE UKRAINE CALL TO INCLUDE
WHAT WE SAW WITH ROBERT MUELLER
IN HIS REPORT.
>> POLITICALLY IT COULD BE VERY
TRICKY FOR DEMOCRATS TO TRY TO
WIN.
>> INCLUDE THE
MUELLER REPORT, A PUBLIC
OPINION OF THE MUELLER REPORT
IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE
SEEING PUBLIC OPINION ON THIS
QUESTION. IT COULD COMPLICATE
THE ARGUMENT. PLANT LEAST EACH
MANY IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
AND ADVOCATED A PROCESS THAT
LOOKS AT SOMETHING VERY CLEAR
CUT VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IT'S A SIMPLE CASE TO THE
PUBLIC
THAT TREE DID SOMETHING WRONG
INSTEAD OF TRYING TO COMPLICATE
IT OR MAKE IT MORE CALM.
>> DID A JUDGE OR THE PRESIDENT
HAS NOT COOPERATED IN THE HOUSE
PROBE HAS CALLED IT A SHAM HE'S
CALLED IT
A COUP. IF THIS DOES IN FACT GO
TO THE SENATE WILL THE
PRESIDENT WORK WITH THE SENATE
ON THIS PARTICULAR I THIS
PARTICULAR IMPEACHMENT CASE AND
WHAT'S GOING TO THE PROCESS FOR
THEM MOVING FORWARD.
>> THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID THAT
IF THIS SENATE TRIAL DOES
HAPPEN HE WILL PARTICIPATE THAT
HIS
ATTORNEYS WILL OFFER A DEFENSE
OF HAND AND THAT HE WILL BE
ENGAGED. SEE THE SENATE TRIAL
AS A
POLITICAL WIN.
>> FOR HIM HE THINKS THAT HE
CAN FORCE HIS POLITICAL AT THE
SERIES TO TESTIFY IN
THE SENATE. MITCH MCCONNELL
COULD DRAG JOE BIDEN JOE
BIDEN'S SON ERIC TRUMP WAS EVEN
SUGGESTED THEY
COULD COMPEL BARACK OBAMA TO
TESTIFY THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID
HE WANTS TO MAKE
SHIFT TESTIFY. SO WE SEEN THESE
THE PRESIDENT THE SENATE TRIAL
AS A TIMER HE WOULD REALLY GET
TO HAVE THE BALL IN
HIS COURT AND HE WOULD SEE IT
AS AN ADVANTAGE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT SO ON MANY
EXPERTS RIGHT ARE. HOUSE
IMPEACHMENT AS YOU MENTION
GINGER THAN
A CENT ACQUITTAL IS THAT A WIN
FOR TRUMP ARE DEMOCRATS,
ESPECIALLY AS WE GET CLOSER TO
2020.
>> THERE IS AN ARGUMENT AMONG
DEMOCRATS AND HAS BEEN FOR SOME
TIME THAT GOING INTO A SENATE
TRIAL AND HAVING THE QUITTING
WITH IT AND BE A VICTORY FOR
TRUMP THAT HE WOULD SAY LOOK I
CAN DO ANYTHING WRONG IN THE
SENATE AGREES
WITH ME. BUT WE'RE A LONG WAY
FROM THE ELECTION A LOT CAN
HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN
REALLY HARD
TO TELL JUST HOW MUCH OF AN
IMPACT DOES PULL-UPS TO PROCESS
BOOK AT ON
THE ELECTION.
>> ALL RIGHT GINGER, LET'S JUST
SAY HYPOTHETICALLY THE HOUSE
DIES MOVE TO IMPEACH PRESIDENT
TRUMP IT MOVES TO THE SENATE.
GIVE OUR VIEWERS
A BREAKDOWN, HOW THAT TRIAL
WORK IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT
OBVIOUSLY THE CHIEF JUSTICE OF
THE SUPREME COURT JOHN ROBERTS
WILL PLAY A ROLE IN THIS AS
WELL.
>> THAT'S RIGHT SO IT AT THE
PROCESS SO FAR LIKE THIS AND
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, THE
TESTIMONY WE SAW THERE'S A
LITTLE BIT LIKE THE
DIS ID WHETHER OR NOT
INVESTIGATING GETTING ALL THE
FACTS TOGETHER. THE JUDICIARY
HEARING WE SAW YESTERDAY IS A
LITTLE
BIT LIKE PROSECUTOR SITTING
AROUND BEING A LONG TIME TO
FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING
THERE CHARGE THAT WHICH
AND THEN THE HOUSE VOTE WILL BE
DECIDING TO SAID THAT PART OF
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND THEN THIS
CAR WILL LOOK A BIT LIKE A
TRIAL. THAT WE'VE SEEN PLAY OUT
IN
OUR PORTS. AS YOU SAID THE
CHIEF JUSTICE WOULD PRESIDE
OVER A REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS WOULD OFFER THERE
HE SAYS BOTH FOR AND AGAINST
PEACH MUCH THERE COULD BE THEY
WOULD TAKE VOTES ON MOTIONS
WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT
IN ASIA. SO WE'VE GOT TO LEAVE