>> WELCOME BACK EVERYONE TO
BETWEEN BELLS ON CHEDDAR NEWS,
I'M BAKER MACHADO IN NEW YORK
AND EVENING. BOTH THE CHECKOUT
WELL WE'VE GOT AN ANSWER FOR IT
TO OUR NEXT GUEST KNOWN FOR
REVOLUTIONIZING THE COMING OUT
NOW HAS NEARLY 5 MILLION
SUBSCRIBERS ON HIS
YOUTUBE ACCOUNT THE NEW YORK
TIMES BEST-SELLING AUTHOR NOW
RELEASING HIS LANE
THIS BOOK WHICH IS A COLLECTION
OF ESSAYS PHOTOS AND
POEMS ABOUT DATING SEX
RELATIONSHIP MENTAL HEALTH AND
A LOT SO JOINING US NOW TO
DISCUSS HIS 3RD BOOK IS
CONNOR FRAN TO YOUTUBE STAR AND
AUTHOR OF THE BRAND A NEW BOOK
HOUSE FIRES WHICH OF COURSE YOU
CAN PURCHASE NOW COM WE'RE GOOD
TO HAVE YOU HERE ON CHEDDAR
NEWS WELCOME. HOW'S
IT GOING REYDS SO WHAT INSPIRED
YOU TO WRITE YOUR 3RD BOOK THAT
IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE
CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
>> I DON'T KNOW I JUST WANTED
TO KIND OF I'VE EVER I REALLY
ENJOYED THE PROCESS OF WRITING
OVER THE LAST
DECADE AND IT JUST FELT RIGHT
TO CONTINUE DOING SO AFTER MY
FIRST BOOK AND AFTER MY SECOND
BOOK IT'S ALMOST LIKE I'M
ADDICTED TO THE PROCESS AND I
JUST
CAN'T STOP.
>> SO YOU'RE LIKE ADDICTED TO
BEING ON DEADLINE AND YOU'RE
LIKE I WAS ALWAYS DO THIS NOW
AS A RESULT IS A SENSE
SOMETHING TO
A PUBLISHER.
>> YEAH, I'M JUST SO CUTE LIKE
>> SO IT'S A BOOK OF ESSAYS
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
DATING SAID THIS RELATIONSHIP
STRUGGLES WITH MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES ALL
OF THAT RICHARD JEWELL WAS THIS
ALL STUFF THAT YOU YOU
EXPERIENCED YOURSELF HOW DID
YOU SORT OF COME UP WITH SOME
OF THE TOPICS THAT YOU WANT TO
DISCUSS HERE.
>> NO DEFINITELY I MEAN IT'S
IT'S GOT SOME PRETTY HEAVY
THEMES AND IT'S VERY IT.
>> VERY RAUH A LOT OF THE
CHAPTERS DEPICT SOME OF THE
LOWER POINT IN MY LIFE ARE THE
POINTS BUT STRUGGLED WITH MOST
SUCH AS MENTAL HEALTH QUESTION
AND YOU KNOW THE DARKEST
MOMENTS OF EACH OF THOSE
POINTS. SO I
WANTED TO HELP VIEWERS ARE HELP
LISTENERS
HELP READERS. FIND A COMPANION
IN BOOK FORM SOMETHING THAT IS
REALLY A DOUBLE TO A LOT OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING AND I
TRIED TO DEPICT THAT WITH THE
MOST OFTEN PUT OFF UNTIL
SUNDAY.
>> WAS THAT HARD FOR YOU TO
SORT OF
GO BACK AND AND GO BACK THROUGH
THESE REALLY TUMULTUOUS TIMES
OR INTERESTING TIMES IN YOUR
LIFE, WHAT WAS SORT OF THE
WRITING PROCESS LIKE FOR IT
BECAUSE FOR ME I DON'T KNOW IF
I CAN EVER GO BACK AND SORT OF
RELIVE THOSE
MOMENTS AGAIN.
>> A 100% THERE WERE MOMENTS
WHERE I DID LIKE A
LITTLE WRITING THAT A WRITER IN
THE DARK PERIOD ALL
OF AREA. WRITING A I TOOK A
LITTLE ROAD TRIP AND
ESSENTIALLY WAS WRITING BY
MYSELF IN THE WOODS AND BY THE
BEACH AND THERE WERE POINTS
WHERE I WOULD GET TO WHERE I
WAS WRITING ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT I HADN'T ALLOWED MYSELF TO
FULLY THINK ABOUT FOR YEARS AND
IT WOULD BE SO EMOTIONAL AND I
HAVE TO PUT THE PEN DOWN AND
EVEN EXIT THE SITUATION FOR A
MOMENT, BUT I FIND THAT THOSE
ARE THE
MOMENTS WORTH EXPLORING MORE IF
YOU'RE AFRAID. THERE'S
SOMETHING THERE THERE'S A STORY
THERE TO BE TOLD YOU KNOW IT I
THINK IT IT I THINK IF YOU
NOT TALKING ABOUT IT, IT'S
STILL GOING TO EXIST SO THE
ONLY WAY TO ALMOST GET
OFF MY BACK OR TO EXPLORE IT
FURTHER IS TO WRITE ABOUT IT IS
TO TALK ABOUT.
>> SO TRUE AND BY THE WAY YOU
PROBABLY GOT WRITING THIS
YOU'RE PROBABLY LIKE THERE'S
GOING TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT
IDENTIFIES AND CONNECTS WITH
THIS BECAUSE THIS IS EXACTLY
THE SAME THING WITH YOUR COMING
OUT VIDEO WHICH YOU INSPIRED SO
MANY MORE PEOPLE TO FINALLY
REALIZED WHO THEY WERE IN THEIR
TERMS OF THEIR TRUE
AUTHENTIC SELF BUT WHEN YOU
CHECK IN YOUR OWN MENTAL HEALTH
CONNOR LIKE WHAT DO YOU DO TO
GO FOR A WALK LIKE WHAT YOU DO
BECAUSE
THIS PANDEMIC AS FRIED ALL OF
US WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIND
WAYS TO BASICALLY COPE AND DEAL
WITH OUR OWN
ANXIETIES HERE.
>> MOST THAT REALLY I MEAN I I
WAS JOKING IN THE VERY
BEGINNING OF IT THAT LIKE I
HAVE BEEN I'VE BEEN TRAINED EYE
SET UP FOR A SITUATION LIKE
THIS BECAUSE I MEAN I WORK FROM
HOME, I'M A CONTENT ON
MY OWN I AM AN INTROVERT SO IN
A WEIRD WAY LIKE I WAS BUILT
HAHA.
>> BUT THE WAYS THAT I COPED
WITH THAT INDIVIDUALLY WAS.
>> IF YOU'RE RUNNING THROUGH
WALKING THROUGH CALLING
FRIENDS, YOU KNOW REALLY DEEPLY
CONNECTING
WITH PEOPLE OVER THE PHONE VIA
VIDEO CALLS AND
EVERYTHING BUT THE EXERCISE WAS
DEFINITELY MY MAJOR OUTLET
DURING THE PANDEMIC DO
EVERYTHING BACK.
>> TO YOUR EARLY YOUTUBE DAYS,
YOU KNOW YOU'RE.
>> COMING OUT VIDEO AND SORT OF
THIS CASCADING THING THAT HE
HAD IN TERMS OF
YOUR CAREER. DO YOU EVER THINK
BACK AND THINK WOW I CAN'T
BELIEVE THAT THAT HAD SUCH A
PROFOUND NOT JUST AN IMPACT ON
OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES, BUT ALSO
A PROFOUND IMPACT ON MY CAREER
HERE.
>> WITHOUT A DOUBT I MEAN I HAD
I WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD LIKE TO
SAY
THAT I.
>> NEW THIS IS ALL A PART OF
THE PLAN I KNEW THIS IS IT WAS
ALL BY DESIGN, BUT NO I HAD NO
IDEA.
>> THAT WHAT I WAS DOING AT THE
TIME IS GOING TO BE
SO IMPACT ON SO MANY PEOPLE'S
LIVES. I I JUST FELT SO RIGHT
FOR ME IT FELT LIKE ALMOST THE
ONLY OPTION WAS TO POST THIS
VIDEO AND TO FINALLY BE FREE
AND TO
SEE THAT HAD THE LAST THING THE
FACTS I MEAN I'VE BEEN ON TOUR
THIS LAST WEEK
HUNDREDS OF OF ADULTS YOUNG
ADULTS WHO SAID THAT THAT VIDEO
WAS THERE A TURNING POINT IN
THEIR LIFE AND I COULD NEVER
IMAGINE THAT. SO IT JUST GOES
TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING YOU DO
THINGS SEEMINGLY UNIMPORTANT
COULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT
THING IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE.
>> SO TRUE ICON OR HOW DO YOU
SORT OF APPROACH OTHER SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORMS, I MEAN BEING A
STAR ON YOUTUBE YOU KNOW WHAT
WORKS ON
THAT PLATFORM, BETTER THAN A
LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE DO BUT YOU
EVER THINK OH MY GOD I SHOULD
BE DOING TIKTOK MORE OH MY GOD
HE BE DOING INSTAGRAM OR OR DO
YOU KIND OF JUST LIKE LOOK I
KNOW WHEN GOOD OF YOU TO I'M
JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON YOU TO
FORGET TIKTOK.
>> I WILL OVER EVERY SOCIAL
PLATFORM. I WILL SAY THAT IT
YOU
KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF
MY WHEEL HOUSE TO DO MORE SHORT
FORM CONTENT I'M MUCH MORE
ENJOY IT WHILE LIKE WRITING I
MUCH MORE ENJOY AND DELAYING
THE LINK THE PROCESS REALLY
PUTTING
MYSELF INTO A STORY THAT I'M
TRYING TO TELL INTO THE EDITING
INTO THE FILMING INTO WRITING
EVERYTHING SO SHORT FORM IS A
LITTLE
BIT MORE OUT OF MY COMFORT
ZONE, BUT
I TRY BECAUSE CLEARLY IT'S
SOMETHING EVERYONE ENJOY IT.
SO I'M GONNA TRY TO FIND MY WAY
TO MAKE IT ENJOYABLE FOR ME.
>> HOW INTERESTING AND YOU
STILL BELIEVE YOU THINK YOUTUBE
STILL IS GOING TO BE AS ONE OF
THE MOST POWERFUL PLATFORMS TO
STILL GET YOUR MESSAGE OUT
YOU DON'T EVER THINK I NEED TO
TRANSITION TO ANOTHER PLATFORM
AS A RESULT
OF THIS.
>> I MEAN I'M I'M ACROSS ALL
PLATFORMS BUT I THINK
COMPETITION IS HEALTHY AND I
LIKE WHEN
OTHER PLATFORMS COME ON TO THE
SCENE AND THEY'RE COMPETING
WITH ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE IT
FORCES GROWTH, YOU KNOW IT WILL
CAUSE THE OTHER
WORDS TO CHANGE IF SOMEONE ELSE
COMES INTO THE SCENE AND STARTS
TOMORROW, FORCING THEM SO I
THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S
WONDERFUL THAT OTHER PLATFORMS
TO KIND OF STARTED
THINGS OUT.
>> NOW I LISTEN I BECAUSE
LISTEN, I'M ON INSTAGRAM ALL
THE TIME AND NOW HAVING TO
LEARN HOW TO DO TIKTOK AND 37
I'VE NEVER FELT OLDER IN MY
LIFE THAN I DO GOING
ON TIKTOK SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS