>> WELCOME BACK GUYS BETWEEN
BALZAN BAKER MACHADO IN NEW
YORK AND MICHAEL RICHARDS OUT
AS EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF BOTH
JEOPARDY AND WHEEL
OF FORTUNE. AND THAT COMES JUST
3 WEEKS AFTER HE WAS NAMED ALEX
TREBEK'S REPLACEMENT SONY
CITING DISRUPTION AND INTERNAL
DIFFICULTIES IN THEIR
ANNOUNCEMENT THAT HE WOULD BE
LEAVING THE SHOW. SO JOINING US
NOW DISCUSSES EVAN
YOUR MONEY, AUTHOR OF CRISIS
AVERTED AND ALSO THE CEO OF
INTERNATIONAL CRISIS PR FIRM
RED BANYAN WELCOME TO THE SHOW
THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US
NOW SONY LEADERSHIP NOW IS
RECEIVING A LOT OF BACKLASH
ESSENTIALLY THAT THEY DIDN'T
VET MIKE RICHARDS BEFORE
CHOOSING HIM
AS HOST. THAT THOSE PODCAST
INTERVIEWS THAT WERE OUT THERE
THAT THE RINGER ESSENTIALLY
FOUND SO HE HAD NO IDEA THAT
THEY EVEN EXISTED. SO JUST FROM
A PR POINT OF VIEW
HAS ENOUGH DAMAGE NOW BEEN DIME
TO THE SHOW'S LONG REPUTATION
AND CAN JEOPARDY RECOVER FROM
THIS.
>> WELL THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME
IT'S GREAT TO BE WITH YOU AND
LET ME SAY I THINK JEOPARDY
WILL LIVED THE FIGHT ANOTHER
DAY I DON'T THINK THIS SHOW IS
GOING ANYWHERE. I DON'T THINK
THE REPUTATION OF DAMAGE THAT
HAS BEEN DONE TO
JEOPARDY SOMETHING FROM WHICH
THEY CAN'T COME BACK NOW
TO THIS POINT OF NOT PROPERLY
VETTING MIKE RICHARDS I THINK
CLEARLY THE SHOW HAS A LOT OF
EGG ON ITS FACE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS THAT IT NEEDS TO
ANSWER ABOUT THE VETTING
PROCESS AND I THINK IT'S IT'S
REALLY A SIGN OF THE TIMES
BECAUSE
ORGANIZATIONS, NOT JUST IN THE
ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY BUT IN
LITERALLY EVERY INDUSTRY.
NOW HAVE
A E MONUMENTAL TASK ON THEIR
HANDS
WHICH IS HOW DO WE GO BACK AND
ACTUALLY KICKS THROUGH WITH A
FINE TOOTH COMB SOCIAL
MEDIA POSTS OF OUR EMPLOYEES
AND IT PUTS ORGANIZATIONS IN A
VERY TOUGH SPOT. AND IT'S IT'S
REALLY PRETTY
TO KILLER LEE NECESSARY WHEN
YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE WHO'S IN A
HIGH-PROFILE POSITION A PUBLIC
FIGURE BECAUSE IT DID NOT TAKE
VERY LONG FOR HIM TO TO BOTH
REACH A NEW CAREER HIGH.
AND NOW A NEW CAREER LOW.
>> YEAH, IT'S VERY CRAZY TO
THINK OVER THE COURSE OF THE
LAST 3 WEEKS HE WAS THE HOUSE
AND
EXACT ROUTE OF THE NUMBER ONE
SYNDICATED SHOW IN THE COUNTRY
AND NOW HE'S LOST BOTH OF
THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. THE OTHER
THING THAT ADDS TO THE SAD
THING IS THE FACT THAT I THINK
JEOPARDY SORT
OF PROMOTED. THE WHOLE
SITUATION THAT WE THE AUDIENCE
FOR PLAYING A ROLE IN THAT THAT
IS WHY LAVAR BURTON HAD THIS
BIG SOME A SOCIAL MEDIA
CAMPAIGN THAT GOT HIM ON THERE.
YOU MIGHT BE ALEC A REALLY
POSITIVE RESPONSE
AS WELL. GIVEN THE FACT THAT
MIKE RICHARDS CAME OUT OF
NOWHERE AND GOT THE POSITION DO
ALMOST WILLING JEOPARDY ALMOST
HAS TO WALK BACK NOW AND SAY OK
TO APPEASE THE AUDIENCE THAT IS
REALLY UPSET WITH THIS MAYBE WE
NOW NEED TO HIDE. THE A LOVE
OUR BURDEN JUST TO APPEASE THE
AUDIENCE HERE.
>> WELL YOU CAN REST ASSURED
THEY'RE GOING TO BE CHOOSING
VERY VERY CAREFULLY. KUZ NOW.
THEY LOOK AT BAD ENOUGH FOR ANY
INDIVIDUAL TO GET FIRED ONCE,
BUT HE MANAGED TO GET
FIRED TWICE IN SHORT ORDER
WHICH I THINK IS PART OF WHAT'S
WHAT'S
REALLY INTERESTING I DO THINK
THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO
PROCEED
WITH CAUTION AND WHEN IT COMES
TO SELECTING THEIR NEXT HOST
AND ALSO THINK THAT IN
RETROSPECT WHEN THEY LOOK BACK
AT THIS WHOLE PROCESS CLEARLY
HAVE A LOT OF CHANGES THAT THEY
NEED TO MAKE IN TERMS OF THERE
PROCESS AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS
HAVE BEEN RAISED AS TO WHY HE
WAS SELECTED WHAT MADE THIS GUY
THE TOP CHOICE, ESPECIALLY
GIVEN THERE WERE SO MANY
ALLEGATIONS AND OTHER CONCERNS
THINGS FLOATING AROUND FROM THE
PAST. SO I THINK THAT THEY'RE
GOING TO BE TO CHOOSE
VERY CAREFULLY, BUT AGAIN YOU
HAVE ALREADY HURT THE
REPUTATION TO AN EXTENT AND I
THINK THEY ARE REALLY
COMPOUNDED
THEIR MISTAKE. WHEN THEY
DECIDED OK HE'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH
TO BE THE HOST
WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE HIM, BUT
HE GETS TO REMAIN AS EXECUTIVE
PRODUCER AND I
THINK NOT DISTANCING HIM FROM
THE SHOW IMMEDIATELY ONCE THEY
SAW THE PUBLIC BLOWBACK LOW
BACK. THEY INVITED MORE
SCRUTINY AND MORE CRITICISM AND
IT MADE THINGS WORSE FOR THEM.
>> ABSOLUTELY AND THEN ON TOP
OF THAT
HAS BEEN WE THINK OF JEOPARDY
IS THE
SORT OF NON-CONFRONTATIONAL
EASY TO WATCH TELEVISION.
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE
GETTING. SO THE FACT THAT IT
HAD SO MANY NEGATIVE HEADLINES.
THERE WAS THIS POST IN BLOG A
BUZZER BLOCK ABOUT THIS SAYING
I NEVER EVER WANT TO THINK
ABOUT JEOPARDY. THIS MUCH AGAIN
IN MY LIFE, I LOVE JEOPARDY.
BUT UNLESS A GIANT EVENT
HAPPENS LIKE THE CURRENT
CHAMPION JEOPARDY SHOULD BE A
SILENT DEPENDABLE FRIEND THAT
JUST STANDS IN THE CORNER IS
THAT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE EXPECT
FROM JEOPARDY IS JUST TO BE
THAT DEPENDABLE FRIEND THAT
BASICALLY CAUSES NO CONTROVERSY
WHATSOEVER.
>> IT IS AND THAT'S PART OF WHY
THIS STORY HAS BEEN SO BIG IS
BECAUSE YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT
SALACIOUS COM AND
SEND OFF COLOR REMARKS AND
SEXISM AN ANTI SEMITIC
COMMENTS. THE LAST THING THAT
COMES TO MIND IS THE VERY
STAYED VERY POOR PROFESSIONAL
BUTTONED-UP JEOPARDY. SO I
THINK PART OF WHAT HAS
COMPOUNDED THIS FOR THEM MADE
THIS SUCH A STORY THAT PEOPLE
CONTINUE TO FIXATE OF
ON HIS ALLEGATIONS OF THE
COMMENTS ATTRIBUTED TO ALEX
TREBEK'S REPLACEMENT. THEY WERE
SO OFF BRAND FOR JEOPARDY,
THE THAT PEOPLE HAVE JUST
CONTINUED TO TUNE IN FOR THE
LATEST SAGA DOES THIS
MAKE IT.
>> HARD FOR OTHER SHOWS NOT
JUST LIKE OR CORPORATIONS AND
BUSINESSES BECAUSE WE REMEMBER
ALEXA MCCANN AND HER SITUATION
WITH TEEN
VOGUE WHERE PAST TWEETS WERE
RESURFACED AND SHE ENDED UP NOT
BEING ABLE TO BE THE EDITOR IN
CHIEF OF THE MAGAZINE BUT IS
THIS BASICALLY IS THIS SAGA
OF IMPACT OTHER SHOWS AND OTHER
PLACES WHERE MAKES IT MORE
DIFFICULT FOR THESE COMPANIES
TO HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH
PODCAST TWEETS FACEBOOK POST
ALL THAT STUFF TO BASICALLY
MAKE SURE THAT THIS PERSON HAS
A REALLY CLEAN BILL BEFORE THEY
MAKE A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT LIKE
THIS.
>> ABSOLUTELY LOOK I SPENT MANY
YEARS OF MIKE WE'RE WORKING IN
AND AROUND WASHINGTON
D C AND THEY TALKED ABOUT IT'S
KIND OF A A GENERALLY ACCEPTED
PRINCIPLE, BUT IT'S
VERY TOUGH. WE'RE ELECTED
OFFICIALS ESPECIALLY FORMER
SENATORS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT
BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE RECORD
SO MUCH AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND
YOU CAN PARSE EVERYTHING
THEY'VE DONE OR THEY'VE SAID
FLOOR CONSTITUENT LETTER
AND THEIR VOTES ON INDIVIDUAL
PIECES
OF LEGISLATION AND THE SAME NOW
HAS MOVED OUT OF THE REALM OF
POLITICS AND INTO THE REALM OF
NOT JUST ENTERTAINMENT,
BUT ALSO HIRING AN H R THE
BIGGER THE TRACK RECORD THE
LONGER THE LIST ME OF THINGS
THAT AN INDIVIDUAL HAS PUT OUT
INTO THE THE WORLD THE MORE
ACTIVE A MAN OR A WOMAN IS ON
SOCIAL MEDIA. THE MORE
POTENTIAL PITFALLS EXIST AND SO
IT'S BECOMING A VERY TOUGH TASK
WITH
THE COMPANY TO HAVE TO PICK
THROUGH AND WADE THROUGH
LITERALLY YEARS AND YEARS
OF COMMENTS AND PART OF THE
ISSUE NOW IS THAT THERE IS A
DEFAULT TO OUTRAGE IN THIS
COUNTRY AND CANCEL CULTURE IS
IS A FORCE
AND IT IS A FORCE TO BE
RECKONED WITH AND IT CAN HAVE
LONG LASTING IMPACTS NOT ONLY
ON SOMEONE'S CAREER BUT THE
REPUTATION LONG TERM
AND SO IT'S BECOMING MORE
INCUMBENTS, NOT JUST
ON THE EMPLOYER TO DO THEIR DUE
DILIGENCE BUT ALSO EVERYBODY
WHO WALKS THIS PLANET HAS TO
TREAD A VERY CAREFUL LINE BIT
MEAN SPEAKING HIS OR
HER MIND BUT ALSO KNOWING THAT
SOMETHING NEW
PUT OUT OFFHAND TO COME BACK TO