>> WELCOME BACK TO CHAIRS NEWS
WRAP FACEBOOK NOW ROLLING OUT A
NEW VACCINE. FINDER TOOL WITH
ITS COVID-19
INFORMATION CENTER. THE SOCIAL
MEDIA GIANT TEAMING UP WITH
BOSTON CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL IN
VACCINE. FINDER DOT ORG TO HELP
USERS FIND PLACES NEARBY TO GET
THE VACCINE.
RIGHT FROM THEIR NEWS
FEED HERE TO DISCUSS IS
ELIZABETH TO WALK IN SILICON
VALLEY CORRESPONDENT FOR
WASHINGTONPOST ELIZABETH GOOD
TO HAVE YOU HERE SO WHAT SORT
OF INFORMATION IS BEING
PROVIDED THROUGH FACEBOOK'S
VACCINE. FINDER TOOL LIZBETH
BECAUSE WHENEVER PEOPLE HEAR
THAT SOME BIG TECH
NAMES AGAIN INVOLVED IN IT USE
IT PERTAINS USER DATA MIGHT GET
A FEW PEOPLE SOME A LITTLE BIT
NERVOUS. WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE
KNOW.
>> YEAH, I THINK I THINK
THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE
INFORMATION VACCINE SITES THAT
ARE YOU KNOW LIKE A LOT OF
THESE VACCINE SITE RIGHT NOW
YOU KNOW IN SAN FRANCISCO OR 11
THE AREA YOU CAN
REGISTER CONSENSUAL. WE'RE
CURRENT OAKLAND, COLISEUM AND
OR AT MOST GO TO CENTER AND YOU
KNOW YOU'RE JUST GOING TO THE
MAIN WEBSITE AND CHECK IN CHECK
AND I THINK FACEBOOK IS JUST
OFFERING ANOTHER SERVICE THERE
YOU KNOW TO WIN
CONSOLIDATE WHAT'S OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S GOOD IN
THE SENSE THAT THIS COUNTRY
NEEDS TO GET VACCINATED AND THE
MORE INTERFACE
SAYS PEOPLE CAN HAVE WITH THAT
INFORMATION THE BETTER
YOU KNOW, SO THEY THEY HAVE AN
IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY THEY
REACH YOU KNOW MORE THAN A 3RD
OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION WITH
OTHER SERVICES COME I'M.
>> WELL I THERE SPECIFIC
PRIVACY CONCERNS THAT JUMP OUT
TO YOU. FOR FACEBOOK USERS WHO
MAY PONDER CONSIDER USING THE
SERVICE.
>> AND YOU CAN REGISTER.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL
ABOUT PUTTING
IN ANY PERSONAL, YOU KNOW OFFER
ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION
MEDICAL TO DO IT. BUT I THINK
THAT THE SERVICE IS GOING TO DO
IS PROBABLY JUST LINK YOU.
2 OTHER SITES THAT YOU WOULD
HAVE REGISTERED WITH ANY WAY.
I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN
REALLY WITH FACEBOOK IS YOU
KNOW THEY'RE DOING THEY'RE
THERE THEY'RE DEFINITELY DOING
THEIR PART THE SENSE THAT
AND MORE AND THE SENSE THAT
THEY'RE YOU KNOW CONSTANTLY
PUTTING UP INFORMATION FROM THE
CDC SAID AND THEY'RE NOW HAVE
THE VACCINE FINDER TOOL, BUT
ALSO
THE PLOT FORM HAS AN ENORMOUS
AMOUNT OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT
THE VACCINE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THE NUMBERS
AMERICANS THAT WILL GET THE
VACCINE. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING
LIKE
49% OF LOOK IN MEN AS WELL AS
PRETTY HIGH NUMBERS OF AFRICAN
AMERICANS EVEN THE LOCALS THERE
ARE CERTAIN POPULATIONS WHERE
THERE'S JUST A ON WHAT'S CALLED
VACCINE. HESITANCY. AND YOU
HAVE TO LEAVE SOCIAL MEDIA,
WE'RE A LOT OF THAT
I SPEND A LOT OF MY TIME
INTERVIEWING PEOPLE WHO FEAR
GETTING THE VACCINE.
AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE
PEOPLE'S WHEN YOU TALK TO
PEOPLE ABOUT
THEIR FEARS. THE LOT OF IT IS
RELATED TO SIDE EFFECTS AND A
LOT OF THE CONCERNED ABOUT SIDE
EFFECTS ARE TOTALLY BLOWN OUT
OF PROPORTION AND
USUALLY FROM RUMORS OTHER TYPES
OF MISINFORMATION AND
DISINFORMATION THAT HAS GONE
RAMPANT ON FACEBOOK OVER THE
LAST YEAR AND ITS TERM THAT
>> YEAH I WAS A BIT INTERESTING
BECAUSE YOU SAID
THE EXACT POLL THAT WAS GOING
TO PRESENT YOU WITH IN THE
SPIRIT OF VACCINE. HESITANCY
SPECIFIC AMONG
REPUBLICAN MEN QUITE FRANKLY A
LOT OF DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTERS
AND A LOT OF
THEM GET THEIR NEWS AND
INFORMATION AND SOMETIMES
MISINFORMATION FROM FACEBOOK
HOW READILY AVAILABLE WILL THIS
COVID TRACK
KIRBY FOR FACEBOOK USERS TO BE
EXPECTED TO BE PROMINENTLY
FEATURED ON FOR INSTANCE THAT
THE HOME OR LOG-IN PAGE AS SOON
AS AN AVERAGE FACEBOOK SIGNS
AND.
>> I THINK FACEBOOK SAYS IT'S
GOING
TO BECOME ROAD MEADOW READILY
AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE I THINK
BIGGER ALSO RIGHT FACEBOOK
USERS MARK ZUCKERBERG THE CEO
THIS RECENTLY ACKNOWLEDGED
THEY SKEW OLDER THEY'RE
STARTING TO SKEW OLDER AND MORE
CONSERVATIVE, SO THERE ARE MORE
OF THOSE TRUMP VOTERS. ON
ON FACEBOOK AND ON AND ON OTHER
PLATFORMS LIKE TO TALK RIGHT
AND THEN YOU
LOOK AT. THE VACCINE
HESITANCY QUESTION YOU SAY WELL
THERE'S BEEN TONS OF FACEBOOK
GROUPS FIRST OF ALL
A LOT OF THE REASON THAT
AMERICANS EVEN HAVE SO MANY
FEARS ABOUT VACCINES TODAY AND
THERE'S SUCH HIGH NUMBERS HAS
TO DO WITH THE ORGANIZATION OF
A VERY WELL ORGANIZED INTO
VACCINE MOVEMENT THAT HAS
REALLY UTILIZE
SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THE LAST 8
YEARS LIKE THEY WERE WE'RE
REALLY AHEAD OF THE GAME, THE
ANTI-VAX MOVEMENT WAS VERY HEAD
OF THE GAME CREATING FACEBOOK
GROUPS AND FACEBOOK MOM GROUPS
AND SOCIAL
MEDIA GROUPS AND SO THOSE
GROUPS CREATE HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS IN SOME CASES OVER A
MILLION PEOPLE
FACEBOOK HAS RECENTLY IN THE
LAST YEAR AND A HALF STARTED TO
CRACK DOWN ON SOME OF THOSE
GROUPS BUT YOU ONE THING I KNOW
THIS FROM COVERING THE COMPANY
IS THAT THE DAMAGE IS ALREADY
DONE BECAUSE THESE IDEAS GET
INTO PEOPLE'S MINDS.
THEY GET INTO THE MOM GROUPS
THAT YOU'RE ON FACEBOOK THERE
IN THE PLACES WHERE
SEEKING INFORMATION. I
I HAD A SCOOP, THIS WEEK BY A
COUPLE DAYS AGO ABOUT FACTS AS
FACEBOOK'S IN 2 COLONEL
RESEARCH INTO A VACCINE HASN'T
EITHER DOING THIS MASSIVE
COLONEL PROJECT TO LOOK AT THE
VACCINE ISN'T AN SEE AND WHAT
THEY FOUND IS THAT.
OF A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF
THE AMOUNT OF THIS CONTENT THAT
WOULD DISSUADE PEOPLE FROM
GETTING VACCINES
IS CONCENTRATED. IN JUST A FEW
COMMUNITIES NOW WHEN I SEE A
FEW COMMUNITIES. I MEAN
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
BUT BUT STILL JUST A FEW
COMMUNITIES AND THAT MEANS THAT
IT'S BECOME AN ECHO CHAMBER
IT'S BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF AN
ECHO CHAMBER EFFECT IN
THOSE COMMUNITIES. AND SO
THAT'S QUITE DANGEROUS
WHEN AND EVEN THE RHONE REPORT
SAID THAT THEY'RE WORRIED THAT
IT'S CONTRIBUTING SUBSTANTIAL
HARM.
>> SO IT'S ONE THING FOR
FACEBOOK TO WRITE THIS
INFORMATION ELIZABETH TO CREATE
MORE
INFORMED USERS ABOUT VACCINE
INFORMATION THE BASICS OF THE
UNDERLYING PUBLIC HEALTH THE
BASICS OF THE SCIENCE WHAT THEY
COULD DO
TO LEARN MORE GET THE VACCINE
THEMSELVES, IT'S SOMETHING
DIFFERENT THOUGH FOR FACEBOOK
TO RECOGNIZE THE ROLE THAT IT
HAS HAD IN THE SPREAD OF
MISINFORMATION FOR
ALLOWING THESE FEW AS YOU SAY
THEY'RE ACTUALLY QUITE LARGE IN
NUMBER, BUT THESE RELATIVELY
ISOLATED GROUPS. WHAT HAS THE
COMPANY DONE ESPECIALLY DURING
THE PAN DEMICK OR OR IN THE
RAMP UP TO THE DISTRIBUTION OF
ACT SCENE TO MAKE SURE THAT IS
JUST ACCEPTING
THE RISK POSSIBILITY OF MAKING
SURE THAT FALSE INFORMATION IS
NOT BEING SPREAD ON THE
PLATFORM KEEP IN MIND OF COURSE
I KNOW THAT IT FACES THAT
QUESTION EVERY DAY ABOUT MANY
ISSUES.
>> AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN
EXAMPLE IN THE IN MY IN MY SKIN
IN THE DOCUMENTS
I SAW IN ONE OF THESE
COMMUNITIES AGAIN MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE TO PUT JUST A 111 PEOPLE
OUT OF MILLIONS
OF PEOPLE WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR
I THINK ALMOST HALF OF ALL THE
CONTENT SEWING DOWN AND
VACCINE. IT'S JUST A 111 PEOPLE
OUT
OF MILLIONS AND SO THAT REALLY
SAYS TO CAN'T
JUST HAVE POLICIES YOU HAVE TO
ALSO TARGET THE SUPER SPREADER
IS THE INFLUENCERS WE KNOW
INFLUENCER SOME HUGE INFLUENCE
THAT'S WHY THEY CALL HIM
FOR SEX. WHAT FACEBOOK HAS DONE
IN TWITTER'S DONE THE SAME IN
TIKTOK AND ALMOST ON SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANIES HAVE LAUNCHED.
I'M VERY STRONG POLICIES
AGAINST COVID-19 FOR ME
MISINFORMATION, SO TECHNICALLY
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO IN
SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT
ALLOWED ANY LONG REAL ON THE
SPREAD BUT LAYING THE BLAME
DOCTOR FAUCI FOR THE
CORONAVIRUS OR
SAYING THAT FEWER PEOPLE DIED
IN THE ACTUALLY GOT BEEN
ACTUALLY HAVE DIED CAN NOT
COMPARE COMPARE IT TO SAY IT'S
LESS DANGEROUS THAN THE FLU.
YOU KNOW THESE ARE ALL THINGS
BY THE WAY TRUMP SENT SOME OF
THOSE THINGS HIMSELF LAST YEAR
THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE
NOT ALLOW ANY LONGER ON THIS ON
FACEBOOK BUT
THERE'S THIS COLE ROUND OF
SPEECH WHICH I WOULD CALL A
GRAY AREA THAT IS ALLOWED AND
THIS IS REALLY WHY IT'S
COMPLICATED LET'S SAY I GO ON
FACEBOOK AND I SAY YOU KNOW,
I'M REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT
GETTING THE VACCINE BECAUSE I
READ
SOMEWHERE THAT HALF OF THE
PEOPLE MAKING THIS UP HALF THE
PEOPLE DIED IN ONE STUDY, NEW
TOOK THE TOOK THE VACCINE IN
THE GUIDE, LET'S SAY
AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT MY
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, BUT I'M
BASING IT ON
FALSE INFORMATION THAT'S A
REALLY FINE LINE FOR ANY SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANY DROPPED BECAUSE
THEY WANT PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT
THE PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND
THEY ALSO WANT THE COMMUNITY TO
BE ABLE TO CORRECT THOSE
EXPERIENCES BECAUSE THEY KNOW
FROM INTERNAL RESEARCH TALKED
TO MANY EXPERTS ABOUT THIS IN.
AND EXTERNAL
YOU'RE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE
CONVINCED OF INFORMATION THAT
COMES FROM YOUR COMMUNITY IF IT
COMES FROM THE LABEL FROM THE
CDC OR FROM A TECH COMPANY
THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS THESE
DAYS AND SO THEY KNEW THAT IF
THEY SHOT THAT
WAS DONE THAT BOYS MAY NOT BE
CORRECTED BY SOMEONE WITHIN
THEIR OWN COMMUNITY THAT THOSE
THAT THINKING AND AND YET IF I
SEE THOSE KIND OF THINGS I'M
SAYING THINGS THAT ARE FALSE
AND I'M SPREADING AROUND AND
THAT CONTRIBUTES A VACCINE
HESITANCY AND SO IT'S A REALLY
FINE LINE. AROUND WHERE
YOU STRIKE THIS BALANCE BETWEEN
PREVENTING
THIS INFORMATION AND LETTING
PEOPLE EXPRESS FEARS AND DOUBTS
EVEN ONE FEARS AND DOUBTS ARE
SOMETIMES BASED ON REALLY
MISLEADING INFORMATION ABOUT
THE VACCINE. AND I'VE SEEN THAT
OVER AND OVER AGAIN THIS YEAR.
AND I'VE SEEN THEM FAIR, I
WOULD SAY I WOULD SAY FAIL
ACTUALLY I AND COMBATING.
>> AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
THE EDGE OF MY SEAT MY JAW HAS
BEEN DROPPING JUST LISTEN TO
YOU THE POWER AND IT'S AMAZING
TO ME USE THE WORD SUPER
SPREADER WHICH THE LAST YEAR IN
OUR LIVES HAS MEANT SOMETHING
VASTLY DIFFERENT RATE
INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP OF ANY
WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
SPREADING THE VIRUS BUT YOU'RE
QUITE LITERALLY TIME AT THE
VIRUS
OF MISINFORMATION THAT RIGHT
NOW
TO TIME. MARK YEAH, OF COURSE
ON MARCH 25TH TWITTER FACEBOOK
GOOGLE SET TO TESTIFY BEFORE
HOUSE AND SEE. ENERGY AND
COMMERCE COMMITTEE WHAT ARE YOU
WATCHING FOR.
>> I WANT TO TURN TO TALK
LARGELY ABOUT THE CAPITOL RIOTS
AND WATCH AND WATCHING FOR THE
CAPITOL RIOTS, I'M WATCHING FOR
CONVERSATION ABOUT COVID.
I'M WATCHING FOR ANTITRUST AND
COMPETITION ISSUES I THINK
THERE'S A BIT ABOUT THOSE KIND
OF THE 3 POINTS.
>> THAT WILL THAT I HOPE YOU'LL
JOIN US AFTER.
YEAH, I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER