>> WELCOME BACK AND WHATEVER
POLITICS HOW TO GET RID OF THE
PRESIDENT IT'S A QUESTION THAT
DEMOCRATS ARE PONDERING AT THIS
VERY THE MOMENT AND THE NAME OF
OUR NEXT GUEST BOOK AS WELL.
THEY CAN PRACTICE DRIVE BY
DAVID PRIEST WAS THE
AUTHOR OF HOW TO GET RID OF A
PRESIDENT HISTORIES GUIDES
REMOVING UNPOPULAR, AND I'M
ABLE OR UNFIT CHIEF EXECUTIVES
TAKING AWAY MECCA.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH BIGGER AND
THANK YOU DAVID FOR JOINING US
WANT TO ASK YOU IN YOUR BOOK
FIRST CAME OUT AND MADE THE
ARGUMENT THAT IMPEACHMENT ISN'T
THE ONLY ACT 2 AS YOU SAID GET
RID OF A PRESIDENT RIGHT SO NOW
SEEING HOW EVERYTHING SHAKING
OUT THE MUELLER REPORTS
COME OUT NOW WE'RE IN AN
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, DO YOU
THINK CONGRESS IS TAKING THE
RIGHT STEPS. I THINK THEY ARE
BECAUSE IMPEACHMENT.
>> IS THE RIGHT METHOD FOR WHAT
WE'RE SEEING IMPEACHMENT IS NOT
THE RIGHT METHOD FOR AN
UNPOPULAR PRESIDENT IN THAT
CASE YOU JUST WAIT FOR THE NEXT
ELECTION. AND IT'S NOT THE
RIGHT
PATH FOR AND UNABLE PRESIDENT
OR DISABLE THE PRESIDENT SOME
OF MADE THE CLAIM THAT THIS
PRESIDENT IS DISABLED, BUT
CLEARLY HE'S ABLE TO MINIMALLY
FUNCTION THEREFORE USING THE
25TH AMENDMENT WOULD NOT THE
RIGHT METHOD THAT'S LEFT FOR AN
UNFIT PRESIDENT IS THE
IMPEACHMENT AND
REMOVAL PROCESS.
>> LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY,
SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT'S VERY
VERY NARROWLY FOCUSED ON JUST
BEST RELATIONSHIP WITH UKRAINE
THE SINGLE PHONE CALL BETWEEN
THE 2 PRESIDENTS OF
THOSE COUNTRIES IS THAT THE
RIGHT MOVE FOR DEMOCRATS BE
TAKING SUCH A NARROW FOCUS IS
IT SOMETHING THE AMERICAN
PUBLIC IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO
UNDERSTAND.
>> ONE COFFEE OUT THAT'S WHERE
THEY ARE PUBLICLY RIGHT
NOW, BUT THEY HAVE MADE CLEAR
THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO
INCLUDE OTHER MATERIALS
PROBABLY BUILDING UPON THE
MUELLER REPORT AND SOME OF THE
INSTANCES OF COLLUSION IN
VOLUME ONE AND OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE IN VOLUME 2 THAT COULD
COME IN US
SPECIALLY IF THE IMPEACHMENT
ARTICLES THEY DRAFT ON ISSUES
OF ABUSE OF POWER OBSTRUCTION
OF JUSTICE CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS
THEY MAY BE BUILT LARGELY ON
THE FOUNDATION OF THE UKRAINE
SCANDAL, BUT THERE ARE
INSTANCES OF THOSE THINGS THAT
CAME OUT OF THE
MUELLER INVESTIGATION AS WELL
THE DANGER THEY HAVE OF COURSE
IS IF THEY MAKE THIS INTO THE
CHRISTMAS TREE REALLY KEEP
HANGING ORNAMENTS ON THE
INDICTMENT ARTICLES, THEY GET
LONGER AND MORE COMPLICATED ONE
OF THE BENEFITS OF A SMOOTH
IMPEACHMENT AND REMOVAL PROCESS
IS PUTTING TO EXACTLY WHAT WENT
WRONG. AND WHY THE ONLY
SUITABLE REMEDY IS IMPEACHMENT
AND REMOVAL.
>> BUT ASK YOU LOOK IN YOUR
CRYSTAL BALL A LITTLE BIT LET'S
SAY THE HOUSE DOES VOTE TO
IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT ANY HEADS
TO TRIAL IN THE SENATE BUT THE
SENATE DOES NOT REMOVE HIM FROM
OFFICE RIGHT WILL IT BE SEEN AS
A FAILURE AND IS THAT A
FAIR ASSESSMENT.
>> IT DEPENDS IT DEPENDS ON HOW
THAT FAILURE COMES BECAUSE IN
THE SENATE THERE IS A TOOTH.
THE MAJORITY REQUIRED FOR A
MOVE ON
THAT IS EXCEPTIONALLY HARD EVEN
IN ONE OF THE 2 CASES OF
IMPEACHMENT THAT WE HAVE HAD IN
THE PAST WAY BACK IN
1868 INTER JOHNSON WAS NOT
REMOVED EVEN THOUGH HIS
OPPOSITION HAD A 2 THIRDS
MAJORITY, IT'S VERY HARD TO GET
TO THAT LEVEL.
WHAT I THINK YOU WANT TO HAVE
IF YOU ARE THE DEMOCRATS MOVING
FORWARD IS JUST THAT IT IS NOT
A COMPLETELY PARTISAN VOTE.
IF YOU CAN GET JUST A COUPLE OF
REPUBLICAN SENATORS SO THAT ITS
51 SENATORS,
NOT THE AMOUNT NEEDED REMOVE
HIM, BUT IT'S A MAJORITY OF
SENATORS THAT IS A BIPARTISAN
VOTE THAT SHOWS THAT THIS WAS
NOT A WITCH HUNT THAT SHOWS
THAT THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING
JUST BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP CHOSE
TO PUT AN R AFTER HIS NAME WHEN
HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT INSTEAD IT
WOULD SHOW THAT SENATORS FROM
BOTH PARTIES SEE THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT IS SIMPLY
UNSUITABLE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
>> NOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S
UNPRECEDENTED BECAUSE IT WENT
DOESN'T COME UP THAT OFTEN AS
WE YOU AND I WERE SAYING BEFORE
WE THOUGHT WE'D ONLY DO THIS
ONCE IN A LIFETIME, BUT LUCKY
AS WE GET TO DO
IT TWICE. BUT THIS DOES KIND OF
LEND WHAT LESSONS HAVE YOU
LEARNED FROM HISTORY TO KIND OF
TAKE THIS PROCESS FORWARD AT
THIS MOMENT IN 2019.
>> FIRST YOU HAVE
TO HAVE ACTUAL CRIMES OR HIGH
CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS WHICH
DON'T HAVE TO
BE CRIMES BUT SOMETHING THAT
RISES TO THE LEVEL THAT IT'S
HARMING THE CONSTITUTIONAL
FABRIC OF THE COUNTRY THIS WAS
THE PROBLEM WITH THE BILL
CLINTON IMPEACHMENT AND WHY IT
WENT DOWN AND DIDN'T EVEN GET
50 SENATORS TO VOTE FOR REMOVAL
ON ANY OF THE ARTICLES OF
IMPEACHMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE
GOING AFTER PERJURY AND
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. BUT THE
PRESIDENT HAD DONE THAT TO
COVER UP A PERSONAL AFFAIR AND
PEOPLE WIDELY THOUGHT THAT'S
NOT WHAT THIS IS FOR SO WE CAN
LEARN FROM HISTORY THAT IN FACT
THEY SHOULD
FOCUS ON THE BIGGEST IN
JUSTICES TO THE SYSTEM ITSELF
THAT DOES APPEAR TO BE
HAPPENING NOW YOU HAVE THE CASE
OF THE PRESIDENT IN
A SENSE SAYING TO THE
UKRAINIANS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
GET THINGS THAT ARE NORMAL IN
THE COURSE OF NATIONAL SECURE
THE BUSINESS UNLESS YOU DO THIS
POLITICAL FATE
FOR THAT CUTS TO THE VERY CORE
OF THE PRESIDENT'S POWER AND
HIS ABUSE THEIR OF I THINK IT
DOES LEARN THOSE LESSONS FROM
HISTORY THAT YOU SHOULD NOT USE
THIS POWER LIKE THAT.
>> THAT RAISES ANOTHER QUESTION
WHICH IS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME
WE'VE EVER HAD A PRESIDENT UP
FOR REELECTION THE SAME TIME
FRAME THAT HE'S FACING
IMPEACHMENT. SO HOW DO YOU
THINK IS GOING TO PLAY ON THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
>> YEAH, THERE WAS ONE SLIGHT
DIFFERENCE TO THAT BACK WITH
THAT INJURY JOHNSON CASE I
MENTIONED HE WAS TRYING TO RUN
FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN
BUT THE REPUBLICANS DIDN'T WANT
HIM EVEN THOUGH HE WAS ON
ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S TICKET.
AND THE DEMOCRATS DIDN'T WANT
TO BECAUSE HE HAD ESSENTIALLY
LEFT THEM TO JOIN ABRAHAM
LINCOLN SO HE ENDED UP HAVING
NO PARTY TO RUN ON, BUT HE
WANTED TO. BUT THIS IS THE
FIRST CASE WHERE SOMEBODY IS
CLEARLY RUNNING AGAIN APPEARS
TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF HIS
PARTY AND IS TRYING TO RUN
AGAIN THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM
IS THAT IF YOU IMPEACH THE
PRESIDENT AND DON'T REMOVE HIM
THAT HE'S IN BOLDEN'S
POLITICALLY THAT WHO USE THAT
AS AN ATTACK POINT. WELL
FRANKLY WITH THIS PRESIDENT
HE'S GOING TO DO THAT ANYWAY
THERE'S NOTHING GOING TO STOP
HIM FROM DOING THAT. SO GOING
AFTER HIM
AND SAY AND WHAT YOU DID IS
WRONG AND WE'RE GOING TO GO ON
RECORD TO SEE SAY THAT PROBABLY
DOESN'T HURT ELECT OR EARLY AND
IT MAY EVEN HELP IN SOME
PLACES, PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE OF
EXACTLY WHAT THE
PRESIDENT THAT.
>> DAVID PEACE AND I THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. WE HAVE
TO LEAVE IT THERE AND BAKER I'M
GOING TO TOSS IT BACK TO YOU AT
THE STUDIO IN
NEW YORK.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH
MAKEUP RATS AND OF COURSE WITH