THE OTHER ONES, EVERYONE
WELCOME BACK BETWEEN BELLS I
WANT TO BE CLEAR PETE, BUT A
JUDGE IS.
>> A LINE FOR THOSE ARE THE
WORDS OUT OF OUR NEXT GUEST,
MICHAEL GARRETT WAS A SENIOR
WRITER AT THE ROOTS MICHAEL
WE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED TALK
ABOUT YOUR ARTICLE IN WHICH YOU
CALLED OUT MAYOR PETE FOR
FURTHERING FALSE NOTIONS ABOUT
MINORITY KIDS MEETING ROLE
MODELS TO UNDERSTAND WHY AN
EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT
INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT
INSTITUTIONAL RACISM AND
INEQUALITY BUT IN THE LAST 18
HOURS OR SO YOU ACTUALLY
RECEIVE A PHONE CALL FROM
MAYOR PETE. WHAT WAS THE
DETAILS WHAT DID THE
CONVERSATION AND TAIL.
>> HE MOSTLY WE HAD IN A
LONG CONVERSATION FOR
EIGHTS TALKING ON THE PHONE BUT
WHAT I TRIED TO EXPLAIN IS THAT
YOU
CAN'T DISCUSS SYSTEMATIC RACISM
AND THE PROBLEMS IN THE
EDUCATION SYSTEM WITH OUT ALSO
TALKING ABOUT RACISM AND
PUTTING IT FRONT AND CENTER
AND AND WHAT I TRY TO EXPLAIN
IS THIS IS THE ULTIMATE FEAR OF
BLACK
VOTERS NIGHT. SO PEOPLE GET TO
SEE WHAT THE JUDGES SITTING
AROUND A TABLE WITH 4 OF THE
WHITE MAN DISCUSSING WHAT'S
WRONG IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY
AND DOESN'T WANT MENTION RACISM
AND SOMEONE AS EDUCATED
AND AS ASTUTE AND WHO DID TO
THE BEST SCHOOLS IN THE
COUNTRY.
IS TO BE A GOOD JUDGE AND WHO'S
BEEN AROUND THE WORLD AS A
NAVAL OFFICER,
HE KNOWS WHAT THE SYSTEMIC
PROBLEMS ARE AND SO
TO NOT MENTIONING IT MENTION IT
IS THAT VOTERS FEAR BECAUSE
IT'S EASY TO RELY ON
THE STROKE. LAZY PEOPLE WHO
LIVE IN INADEQUATE ARRON SEEING
IN SINGLE
PARENT HOMES WHEN WILL WE KNOW
THE CAUSES OF THESE REAL
PROBLEMS IS INEQUALITY A
SYSTEMATIC RACES.
>> MICHAEL DID YOU GET THE
FEELING AT THE END OF THE PHONE
CALL AFTER YOU SAID THAT PEOPLE
ARE SHAKEN REALLY LISTEN TO YOU
THAT HE WAS BEING GENUINE WITH
THE PHONE CALL HOW DID THINGS
END AT THE END.
>> SO THEY ENDED AMICABLY BUT
LET'S BE HONEST HOW HOW MUCH
AND NO YOU THE ONLY THING THAT
ANYONE KNOWS ABOUT
ANY CANDIDATE. AT THIS POINT OF
THE PRIMARY SEASON IS WHAT THEY
SAY RIGHT
THE PUT WHAT THESE PROPOSALS
THAT WE
DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL TO THEM
ONCE THEY GET IN OFFICE THEY
MAKE THESE PLANS STATE PROMISE
THINGS AND SOMETIMES THAT KEEP
THEM SOMETIMES THEY THEY DON'T
WE'VE GOT WHAT 32 FEET. BORDER
WALL NOW WHEN IT WAS TRUMP'S
BIGGEST CAMPAIGN PROMISE SO ALL
I KNOW IS WHAT HE SAID WHAT HE
SAID WAS THAT HE'S GOING TO BE
MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT TALKING
ABOUT THESE THINGS AND THAT HE
WOULD LISTEN. AND THAT'S WHAT
HE DID. AND SO THAT'S ALL I CAN
JUDGE IT WAS I
CAN'T SAY THAT HE WAS SINCERE
BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY FOR ME
TO NO THAT AND I WOULD PRESUME
TO BE THAT ASTUTE.
>> AND SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
GOING TO BE GATHERING FOR
THANKSGIVING AND THE HOLIDAYS
IN THE NEXT COMING WEEKS WHEN
THEY TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
CANDIDATES THAT ARE OUT THERE
SPECIFICALLY ON THE DEMOCRATIC
SIDE BECAUSE THERE
ARE SO MANY OF THEM WHERE DO
YOU THINK PEOPLE TO JUDGE THIS
STACKS UP.
>> I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON WHAT
KIND OF HOUSEHOLD YOU'RE
IN RIGHT. PEOPLE ARE GOOD.
GOOD JUDGES SEEMS LIKE AN
ALTERNATIVE CANDIDATE FOR
MODERATES AND WHAT PROGRESSIVE
CANDIDATES SEEM TO BE NOT GOING
TO WAR BERNIE SANDERS AND
ELIZABETH WARREN A MAY BE
COMING TO ADDRESS. BUT THERE'S
NO WAY FOR US TO KNOW YOU KNOW
WE HAVE TO
BURN IN RACE WHO MAY BE ABLE TO
TAKE SOME OF THOSE WAS AWAY
FROM HIM, BUT I THINK THE
CONVERSATION RIGHT IS IT WHAT
THE CONVERSATION WILL EMBODY IS
WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THAT FAN
THE FAMILY IS IS A
AS A FOREST IS A SIGNAL THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO GRAVITATE WITH
A CANDIDATE WHOSE SOME
SOLUTIONS FOR HEALTH KI IF THAT
FAMILY
HAS A OH I LOVED ONE WAS IN
PRISON THAT THEY MIGHT
GRAVITATE WHAT A IT WAS A
CANDIDATE WHO HAS OFFERED A
CRIMINAL JUSTICE WITH MORE SO
IT'S IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT
THESE THINGS AS A MONITOR
THAT WHICH IS WHICH WAS MY
POINT TO PETE BE JUDGED LIKE
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE
A MYRIAD OF REASONS WHY THESE
THINGS EXIST AND YOU HAVE TO BE
CAREFUL ABOUT POINTING OUT
THE ROOT CAUSES
AT THAT INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC
SCENES THAT YOU HAVE TO MICHAEL
LET'S START.
>> ALL THE WAY AT THE BEGINNING
I MEAN YOUR INITIAL ARTICLE
ABOUT PEOPLE TO JAG IT WENT
INCREDIBLY VIRAL YESTERDAY AND
THAT GOT MOST OF THE PICKUP AND
THAT'S ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY WHY
WE WANT TO BOOK YOU TO TALK
ABOUT THIS AND ONLY BECAUSE
PEOPLE ARE SHOCKED AND CALLED
RAPTOR TO THAT AT
EVEN MORE INTRIGUING BUT WHY
DID YOU FEEL THAT YOU WANTED TO
WRITE THIS. WHY DID YOU FEEL
LIKE YOU WANTED TO TAKE AN
ADDRESS THIS AND WHY PEOPLE TO
JACK SPECIFICALLY RATHER THAN
SAY A JOE BIDEN ELIZABETH
WARREN OR EVEN A BERNIE
SANDERS.
>> WELL I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY
WAS BECAUSE OF THAT CLIP THAT
BE INKS THAT YOU KNOW A FEW
PEOPLE SENT ME THAT CLIP AND IT
STRUCK ME AS IM BUYING. THE
WAVE THAT
POLITICAL CANDIDATES TALK ABOUT
THE QUOTE UNQUOTE THAT VOTE
RIGHT SO PEOPLE
TO JUDGE THIS IS SITTING HERE
IN THESE EMBODYING A FEE AND AS
I SAID EARLIER OF NOT
ADDRESSING THE SPECIFIC ISSUES
THAT BECAUSE THE PROBLEM LOOK.
SHE IS IS THE POINT OF
THIS LIGHT SO SCHOOLS ARE
UNDERFUNDED SCHOOLS WILL
MAJORITY BLACK STUDENTS ATTEND
UNDERFUNDED BY ABOUT 3, 2, 8 $3
BILLION A YEAR ACCORDING TO A
RECENT STUDY IT TAKES AND
SCHOOL FUNDING IS TIED TO HOME
OWNERSHIP IN WELL AND BLACK
THAT BACK HOME VALUES ARE
UNDERVALUED EVEN
IF THERE SADLY TO SAY IF IT IS
A IN A BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD IS
ABOUT ONE EVERY
$48,000 LESS THEN A HOME IN A
WHITE NEIGHBOR AND THAT IS THE
PROBLEM BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE
FUND OUR SCHOOLS WITH WITH
WITH WITH PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS
AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
PROBLEM COMES THAT A RISE IN
SCHOOLS. I'M
NOT SAYING LIKE WE WE WE'VE
BEEN SO FOCUSED ON BUYING
WHITE-SUPREMACIST IT AND RACIST
LANGUAGE WITH THIS IS THE REAL
WHITE SUPREMACY MIGHT THIS IS
THE THING THAT CAUSES
THE INEQUALITY, DUE TO LACK OF
ROLE MODELS NOT TO CARE
HOW MANY SAM PERRY, SO WE HOPE
THOSE THINGS CONTRIBUTE BUT
THOSE THINGS UP ALSO CAUSE, BUT
JUST TO TO SHOW RACES
AND THAT IS WHAT MADE ME WANT
TO TALK ABOUT AND WRITE
THE ORDER.
>> BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
THE PARTY TODAY THAT REPRESENTS
A LOT OF PROGRESSIVE IDEALS AND
IDEAS THAT THEY'VE BROUGHT INTO
THE CAMPAIGNING AND THE WAY
THAT THEY'VE
TALKED ABOUT THE ISSUES ON THE
ISSUE OF INSTITUTIONALIZED
RACISM AND INEQUALITY IF WE DID
SEE A CANDIDATE
WHO WAS MORE ADAMANT ABOUT
OPENLY TALKING ABOUT THIS
ADDRESSING AND COMING UP WITH A
PLAN
FOR THIS DO YOU THINK THAT
WOULD MOVE THE NEEDLE
ON OTHER DEMOGRAPHICS THAT
AREN'T NECESSARILY IMPACTED BY
THEM, BUT STILL HAVE TO GET OUT
AND VOTE THE SAME WAY IN 2020.
>> SEE I
THINK THAT THE POLITICAL
ACTIVISTS THAT THESE CANDIDATES
HAVE TO DETERMINE BECAUSE
TALKING ABOUT RACE IS STILL A
3RD DRILL. WELL WHEN WE HAVE A
BLACK CANDIDATE.
>> YOU DIDN'T REALLY GET WANT
TO GET TOO DEEP INTO THE
CONVERSATION
ABOUT RACE BECAUSE AS MUCH AS
IT CAN ATTRACT BLACK VOTERS.
A KID SEND A WHALE
OR MAKE SOME WHITE VOTERS
UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE IT IS AN
UNCOMFORTABLE HAPPY TO TALK
ABOUT GRACE.
IT'S NECESSARILY UNCOMFORTABLE
RIGHT AND SO.
A LOT OF POLITICIANS DON'T WANT
TO MAKE VOTERS WHO MIGHT BE
JUST CONSIDERING VOTING FOR
THEM UNCOMFORTABLE AND SO
I THINK IF YOU WANT THE BATTLE
YOU POINT TO ACT TO
ADDRESS THAT. BUT THE PROBLEM
IS THAT MIGHT PUSH AWAY
MODERATE WHITE VOTERS.
>> IT'S INCREDIBLE PIECE REALLY