>> WELCOME BACK TO ME
ABOUT EVERYONE WAS INSTALLING I
THINK THAT CHINA LAST NIGHT
WELL PRESIDENTIAL DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATES TOOK THE STAGE IN
OHIO. EACH HOPING TO GET THEIR
POINT ACROSS AND BRING IN SOME
NEW SUPPORTERS BOARD WHO
ACTUALLY PULLED IT OFF WELL
JOINING US NOW
IS PEN THE LEVY REPORTER OVER
AT MOTHER JONES PENA GREAT TO
HAVE YOU HERE A LIST WITH WAR.
NO DOUBT WAS THE TOP TARGET
LAST NIGHT, SOME SHE'S NOW THE
NEW DEMOCRATIC FRONT RUNNER.
SHE'S GETTING IT FROM ALL SIDES
LAST NIGHT, ESPECIALLY FOR
PEOPLE WHO JAG SO HOW DID SHE
FARE LAST NIGHT HOW DO YOU
THINK SHE DEBT. YOU KNOW I
THINK THAT SHE HANDLED THIS
REALLY WELL.
>> YOU KNOW BEING IN THE HOT
SEAT AS SHE WAS SORT OF A
DOUBLE EDGED SWORD ON THE ONE
HAND YOU TO FEND
OFF ATTACKS ON THE OTHER HAND
YOU GET A LOT OF TIME AND A
DEBATE WHERE TIME MS MAY BE THE
MOST
VALUABLE THING. WE'RE DIVIDED
UP YOU KNOW
12 CAN AND IT'S HERE SO THE
FACT THAT SHE HAD SO MUCH TIME
AND SHE EVERY TIME SHE SORT OF
TOOK
A CRITICISM SHE JUST SORT OF
USED IT TO SAY WELL, HERE'S
WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS
IS MY PLAN AND SO I THINK THAT
YOU KNOW SHE DID A GOOD JOB
THAT SORT OF SHE SORT OF SEEMED
INCREDULOUS WHEN PEOPLE ATTACK
ARE LIKE I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU
WOULD THINK THAT THIS WAY THIS
IS ON TRYING
TO DO. YOU KNOW SHOULDN'T
REALLY RETURN THOSE ATTACKS,
I'M JUST SORT OF LIKE
ABSORB THEM A LITTLE BIT AND I
THINK THAT SHE HELD AROUND
PRETTY WELL SOME SKEPTICS
THOUGH HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT
HER ANSWERS ON
HEALTH CARE THERE WERE A
VULNERABILITY HER KIND OF NON
ANSWERS ON MEDICARE WERE THERE
ANY WEAK SPOTS THAT YOU NOTICE
LAST NIGHT FOR WARREN.
YOU KNOW I THINK THAT THE WHOLE
DEBATE AROUND HEALTH
CARE IS IN REALLY OLD AND I
THINK IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH
A VERY SPECIFIC NUMBER OF
PUNDITS IN
THE MEDIA THAT JUST WANT TO
BASICALLY GET HER TO SAY THAT
SHE'S GOING TO RAISE TAXES
AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN
HAVING THIS EXACT SAME HEALTH
CARE DEBATE AND EVERY SIT IN
THE QUESTION AND EVERY SINGLE
DEBATE. SO FAR SAYS THE 4TH
DEBATE AND WE WENT THROUGH IT
AGAIN INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT
OTHER ISSUES ABOUT HEALTH CARE
ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS GET
WARNED TO SAY I WILL RAISE
TAXES SHE DOESN'T WANT TO SAY
IT BECAUSE SHE KNOWS IT WILL GO
INTO AN ATTACK AD AGAINST HER.
AND SO WE JUST HAVE THIS DANCE
AND I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY
IT'S NOT SERVING THE VOTERS AND
ULTIMATELY WHAT ONE IS SAYING
IS YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BRING
COSTS DOWN SO DON'T FOCUS ON
THE TAX PIECE
FOCUS ON THE OVERALL TO LOWER
INCOME AND MIDDLE PEOPLE IN
THE COUNTRY AND I THINK THAT'S
PROBABLY WHAT
IS AT WE MUST MEANINGFUL TO
VOTERS, YOU KNOW YOU'RE SITTING
THERE LOOKING AT YOUR TOTAL
COST NOT JUST YOUR TAXES
AND SO I THINK THAT YOU KNOW
EVERYONE WAS SORT OF BENEFIT
HEAR IT. THE MODERATORS WOULD
FOCUS ON A
MORE HOLISTIC VIEW OF HEALTH
CARE OR EVEN JUST LOOK AT OTHER
ASPECTS OF IT LIKE DRUG PRICES
FOR EXAM.
>> AND ONE OF THE PERSON THE
KIND OF STRUGGLED QUITE A BIT
LAST NIGHT WAS JOE BIDEN IT
SEEMS LIKE YOU WASN'T REALLY
ABLE TO MAP THE UKRAINE
SITUATION IN THE BY
VERY WELL. HE STUMBLED ON A
COUPLE OTHER SITUATIONS
AS WELL. HOW DO YOU FEEL LIKE
THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT
DIDN'T IS THEIR WAY FOR HIM TO
KIND OF GET BACK INTO THE RACE
AND KIND OF TAKE THINGS AWAY
FROM THE LIST WITH 4.
>> A DISASTROUS
DEBATE HERE BUT I DO THINK THAT
JOE BIDEN HAD A MISSED
OPPORTUNITY DEBATE. YOU KNOW HE
COULD HAVE BEEN
I THINK A LOT MORE FORCEFUL ON
THE CRANE STUFF HE WASN'T THAT
FORCEFUL IN
MY OPINION. I ALSO THINK HE
SORT OF FUMBLED THE FOREIGN
POLICY PART HERE AND THIS IS
WHERE HE GETS TO TOUT HIS AS A
SENATOR AND AS VICE PRESIDENT.
YOU KNOW AND HIS HIS RESPONSE
WHEN ASKED THE SITUATION WITH
THE KURDS IN TURKEY AND SYRIA
WAS SORT OF LIKE I'M GOING TO
HAVE A STERN CONVERSATION WITH
ASSAD AN AIRLINE IN THAT JUST
FELT STRANGE TO ME LIKE.
A STRONG
CONVERSATION THAT'S THAT'S A
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT WEAK FOR
THE MOMENT SO I THINK HE REALLY
MISSED OPPORTUNITIES AND YOU
KNOW YOU REALLY SAW YOU KNOW
THE OTHER MODERATES ON
THE STAY INCLUDING PEOPLE TO
JUDGE AN ENCLOSURE ARE REALLY
TRYING TO TAKE ON YOU KNOW
LAUREN AND SORT
OF PRESENT THEMSELVES AS
ALTERNATIVES TO BIDEN AND SO I
DO THINK THAT BIDEN HAS A LOT
OF WORK TO DO TO SORT OF REGAIN
ON SOME LEVEL IF YOU JUST LOOK
AT THE NUMBERS HE SORT OF THE
FRONT RUNNER HERE. HE DOESN'T
HAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS THE OTHER
FOLKS AND AND HE SORT OF SEEMS
TO BE FADING IN TERMS OF ENERGY
AND MOMENTUM WHERE DO YOU THINK
THE CONVERSATIONS IN TERMS OF
THE ACTUAL TOPICS AND POLICIES
ARE GOING TO TURN BASED ON LAST
NIGHT'S DEBATE IN THAT BIG CAME
UP A LOT AND ARE YOUNG KEEPS
BRINGING UP ATTACKING
AUTOMATION THAT SORT OF THING
WHAT THE BIG CONVERSATIONS
GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD.
AGAIN I THINK THAT YOU KNOW THE
DEBATE IS REALLY INTERESTING
BECAUSE YOU KNOW ON THE ONE
HAND I THINK IT IT WAS GOOD AND
TO BRING IN SOME OF THESE NEW
QUESTIONS YOU KNOW WHO WANTS TO
BREAK UP BIG TECH WHO IS
LOOKING AT MONOPOLIES HAS A BIG
PROBLEM THIS COUNTRY I THINK
THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT QUESTION. I THINK WE
ALSO SAW A LOT OF THINGS LEFT
ON THE WAYSIDE WE DIDN'T SEE
CLIMATE CHANGE COME UP WE
DIDN'T REALLY SEE IMMIGRATION
COME UP. WE DIDN'T SEE ISSUES
LIKE VOTING RIGHTS COME UP,
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT TALK ABOUT
AH, YOU KNOW THE SUPREME COURT.
BUT WE'RE REALLY NOT TALKING
ABOUT TOMORROW, CHRISTIE
REFORMS AND SO I THINK A LOT OF
THE ISSUES THAT THE CANDIDATES
REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT ARE
NOT COMING UP AS MUCH. SO YOU
KNOW I THINK
AND THIS AT THE SAME TIME YOU
KNOW I I DO HOPE THAT THOSE
COME A MORNING THAT THE
CANDIDATES WILL BRING THEM UP
AT THE SAME TIME YOU KNOW I
THINK THE ECONOMY OBVIOUSLY YOU
KNOW I THINK
THAT THEY CAN IT'S YOU KNOW
IMPEACHMENT IS A BIG THING, BUT
YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST MAKE IT
ABOUT TRUMP AND SO I
THINK THAT YOU KNOW HEALTH CARE
AND THE ECONOMY WILL CONTINUE
TO BE. YOU KNOW THE BIG DEALS
HERE. I
THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW THAT'S
REALLY WHAT YOU KNOW FOLKS ARE
VOTING ON THAT AT THE POLLS SAY
THAT THEY CARE ABOUT THE MOST.
>> ONE OF THE OTHER BIG STORY
LINES LAST NIGHT WAS BERNIE
SANDERS BACK BACK IN THE FOLD
AFTER YOU KNOW JUST A FEW WEEKS
AFTER HAVING A HEART ATTACK HE
DID PRETTY WELL LAST NIGHT
SEEMED LIKE HE HAD A LOT OF
ENERGY WAS MAKING JOKES ABOUT
THE FACT THAT HE WASN'T ON WEED
LAST NIGHT A BUNCH OF OTHER
THINGS. BUT ONE THING WE FOUND
OUT RIGHT AFTER THE DEBATE AND
THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY PERFECTLY
TIME WAS HE DID GET THE
ENDORSEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA
OCASIO AND YOU A LOT OF THEM
ARE RIGHT AFTERWARDS. I
DON'T THINK THIS WAS A SURPRISE
THAT THEY ENDORSE BERNIE
SANDERS, BUT JUST HOW
SIGNIFICANT IS THE ENDORSEMENT.
>> I DO THINK THAT IT'S
SIGNIFICANT I ALSO THINK THAT.
IT IS SOMEWHAT EXPECTED I THINK
IT'S EARLIER
THAN EXPECTED. AND I ALMOST
WONDER IF THAT SIGNALS THAT HIS
CAMPAIGN REALLY NEEDS THAT
BOOST AND THAT SORT OF VOTE
OF CONFIDENCE, I'M PARTICULARLY
AFTER A HEALTH SCARE I THINK
IT'S A YOU KNOW JUST
SPECULATING HERE IT'S POSSIBLE.
THAT IS THESE ENDORSEMENTS ARE
ROLLING OUT EARLIER THAN THEY
MIGHT HAVE INITIALLY PLANNED TO
DO. SO I THINK THEY'RE
IMPORTANT FOR SORT OF
THAT THESE YOU KNOW PROGRESSIVE
STARS STILL HAVE
FAITH IN HIM AND STILL THINK
THAT HE'S THE MAN FOR THE YOU
KNOW ON THE OTHER HAND BECAUSE
IT SORT OF EXPECTED
BECAUSE THEY ARE SORT OF ON THE
SAME PAGE AND HAVE THESE LIKE
LONGSTANDING RELATIONSHIPS.
IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT REALLY
DEALS A BLOW TO ANY OF THE
OTHER THE CANDIDATES RIGHT NOW
IT MOSTLY SEEMS TO
SHORE HIM.
>> WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR ONE LAST
OBVIOUSLY THE NEXT DEBATE
HAPPENING IN NOVEMBER. THE
THRESHOLD TO QUALIFY FOR THE
NEXT DAY A LITTLE BIT MORE
DIFFICULT THAN THE
OCTOBER DEBATE. SO WE MIGHT NOT
SEE A BUNCH OF CANDIDATES LIKE
ANY CLUB WHICH ARE TULSA
GABBERT JULIÁN CASTRO AND A FEW
OTHERS NOT MAKE THE NEXT ONE
COURT DO YOU THINK IS NOT GOING
MAKE THE NEXT ONE WHO IS THE
LAST TIME WE SAW LAST NIGHT.
>> WELL YOU KNOW THAT'S A GOOD
QUESTION I MEAN LOOK WHEN
CASTRO WAS ON THE FAR END
OF THAT STAGE, SO I THINK YOU
KNOW HE HAS SOME OF THE NOT SEE
YOU KNOW CLUB WHICH ARE
CERTAINLY I THINK COREY BOOKER
STRUGGLE HERE SO YOU KNOW THOSE
FOLKS WE JUMPING UP I THINK
TULSA GATHERED
AS WELL WELL MIGHT BE DROPPING
UP AND YOU KNOW ON THE ONE HAND
I THINK THESE PEOPLE ARE
BRINGING
PIECES TO THIS CONVERSATION ON
THE OTHER HAND, 12 PEOPLE IS A
LOT AND I
THINK ON IN ONE WAY IT ALMOST
FOMENTS ARGUMENT BECAUSE THE
ONLY WAY TO GET FACE TIME
IS TOO PICK A FIGHT WITH
SOMEONE AND THEN GO TO RESPOND
MULTIPLE TIMES TO THEM SO IT'S
SORT OF FOSTER'S A
COMBATIVE CONVERSATION AND SO I
THINK IT'S THAT IT WILL BE IN
DEMOCRATS INTEREST OVERALL TO
HAVE A SMALLER DEBATE.