>> WELCOME BACK
TO CHEDDAR EVERYONE THE
UPCOMING BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
IS LIKELY TO CHANGE THE U.S.
RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER
WORLD POWERS, INCLUDING CHINA,
BUT THE DETAILS OF BIDEN'S
PROPOSED CHINA POLICIES ARE
STILL A
BIT UNCLEAR. JOINING US NOW IS
SHES ON QAZI MANAGING DIRECTOR
AT CHINA BEIGE BOOK.
WELL SHE'S NOT ALWAYS GREAT TO
HAVE YOU WITH US ON THE SHOW
RIGHT NOW WE WE HEARD
FROM THEM PREVIOUS GUEST THAT
BIDEN'S STANCE ON CHINA HAS
CHANGE OF THE COURSE OF HIS
POLITICAL CAREER. A RECENTLY
TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF A HARDER
STANCE. WHAT DO WE KNOW SO FAR
ABOUT HOW
ARE RELATIONS WITH CHINA COULD
CHANGE UNDER A BIDEN-HARRIS
ADMINISTRATION.
>> THE NORTH SO WE ACTUALLY
DON'T KNOW A LOT AT THE AS A
MATTER OF FACT WE DON'T
REALLY KNOW WHAT IF LASHED OUT
BIDEN POLICY ON CHINA IS GOING
TO
LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW DURING THE
ELECTION SEASON, THE CAMPAIGN
SEASON, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
WE NOTICED WAS THAT THERE WAS
PRECIOUS LITTLE CONVERSATION AS
FAR AS POLICY WAS CONCERNED
SOME OF THAT WAS ON PURPOSE OF
OF COURSE THE IDEA WAS THAT THE
LAST THE BIDEN CAMP SAYS THE
LEFT THE DEMOCRATS THEY LET
THAT MISSION THE PRESIDENT WILL
HAVE TO ATTACK THEM AND SO NOT
A LOT WITH THAT ON THE
POLICY FRONT AND THE RESULT OF
THAT THERE WAS ALSO QUITE
FRANKLY A LOT OF POLICY
THINKING OF ALL THE PLANNING
HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE BECAUSE
IT WAS
NEVER REQUIRED. SO NOW AS WE
MOVE INTO THE PRESIDENT ELECT
FOCUSING ON HIS TRANSITION TEAM
AND LOOKING TO TAKE OVER IN
JANUARY WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE
AND MORE SPECIFICS BEING PUT
INTO PLACE. IN THE COMING WEEKS
AND THE
COMING MONTHS. THAT SAID WE DO
KNOW THERE'S THERE'S A BROADER
CONTEXT UNDER THE PRESIDENT
ELECT. WE'LL HAVE TO I WILL
HAVE TO OPERATE. I THINK
THERE'S A SINGULAR CONSENSUS
NBC TODAY. THAT CHINA IS A
STRATEGIC COMPETITOR AND THE
POLICIES OF THE UNITED STATES.
MUCH BE CHANGE AND SO THAT WE
CAN STEP UP AND MEET THAT
CHALLENGE AND TAKE A MORE
HARDLINE MORE CONFRONTATIONAL
APPROACH TOWARD AGING.
>> YEAH AND SHE IS ON IN
CONSIDERING CHINA AS
A COMPETITOR IN MANY WAYS HOW
DOES THAT ACTUALLY MANIFESTS
ITSELF IN TERMS OF AND I ASKED
BECAUSE WE
KNOW THAT THINGS LIKE IT
TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THAT WAS
A HUGE STICKING POINT IN THE
TRADE WAR AND
TRADE DEALS. BUT THERE'S ALSO
CONCERNS OF DATA
TRADE RELATIONS, GENERALLY WHAT
DO YOU THINK WILL AND SHOULD BE
FRANKLY THE FOCUS FOR THE NEXT
ADMINISTRATION.
>> YES AND YOU CAN START OF THE
TECHNOLOGICAL FRONT FIRST AGAIN
YOU KNOW FOLKS MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY
CONCERNED ABOUT ANY TYPE OF
TRANSFER
OF TECHNOLOGY. I TO CHINA EVEN
ON TECHNOLOGICAL INPUT THAT
COULD BE USED TO ADD MORE
SPECIFICALLY FOR DEFENSE
PURPOSES THAT'S BEEN DUBBED A
MAJOR CONCERN. SIMILARLY THERE
ARE CONCERNS AROUND SUPPLY WHEN
COVID AND YOU REALIZE THAT A
TON OF ART
PHARMACEUTICAL SUPPLY IS
DEPENDENT ON MANUFACTURING
HAPPENING WITHIN CHINA EVEN PPE
YOU KNOW OUT PPE AND SO
THERE WAS A BIG PUSH THAT WE
NEED TO ALTER SUPPLY CHAINS AND
MOVE THEM OUT
OF CHINA AND SO FORTH DATA
PRIVACY CONCERNS, THESE ARE ALL
THINGS WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY
DOMINATE THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND THE
SOURCE OF THINGS THAT HE
TOUCHED UPON IN A LEADING WHEN
A BRIEFLY UNDER THE
OBAMA YEARS AS WELL A BIT MORE
COMPLICATED FACTOR. I THINK
BECOMES WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
WITH
TRADE POLICY. THE BIG QUESTION
PEOPLE OF COURSE HAD AT WHAT
HAPPENED WITH HARRIS KNEW WE
SEE A ROLLBACK OF PARIS UNDER A
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO
GET TO SEE HERE THE TARIFF WAR
HAS BEEN GOING TO BE INHERITED
BY A
PRESIDENT BIDEN SORT OF SIMILAR
TO ANY OF THE WAR THEY EVEN
HEARD AND THERE'S QUITE
HONESTLY. THERE'S NO REASON FOR
PRESIDENT BIDEN TO GIVE AWAY
THESE FREEBIES IF YOU WILL TO
THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IN TERMS
OF TARIFF ROLLBACK THERE'S ALSO
A TO BE A LOT OF PRESSURE
ON HIM SPIRIT AND OPPORTUNITY
THAT ELECTED HIM LIFE THE UNION
WHICH WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF
THE TARIFFS AND
STAY ON. I ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW
WHICH ARE WORKING IN AFFECTED
INDUSTRIES, OUR COMPETITION
FROM KIND OF COURSE IMPACTS SO
I THINK ON THE TARIFF WAR WE
SHOULD PROBABLY PREPARE TO SEE
MORE OF
THIS PAIN. AND
NOT BE I THINK IN A BACK BENNY
OF EVEN THE INITIAL HONEYMOON
PERIOD THAT WE MIGHT SEE THAT
THE CHINESE.
>> YES, A VERY GOOD POINT SAYS
I DID IT AND WE'VE ALSO SEEN A
VERY GLOBAL LEADERS ALREADY
CONGRATULATING PRESIDENT ELECT
BIDEN DO YOU THINK
STRENGTHENING RELATIONSHIPS
WITH SOME OF THESE ALLIES UNDER
A
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION MIGHT HELP
TO PUT MORE PRESSURE ON CHINA
AS FAR AS FAIR TRADE PRACTICES.
>> BUT I THINK THAT THAT IS
REALLY FAIR POINT THAT MOST
CERTAINLY HAPPENING WE'VE
ALREADY SEEN THAT THE GERMAN
FOREIGN MINISTER I BELIEVE WHEN
THE
CALL THAT BIDEN TO GRADUATE AND
YOU BROUGHT UP CHINA AND BEING
ABLE
LIFE AGAIN THEY'RE TO WORK AT
YOU KNOW TO PUSH BACK AGAINST
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE
CHINESE AND UP TO THE 5 BY THE
G AND
SO FORTH PRIME IF
YOU GO BY HE TALKED ABOUT
OBVIOUSLY THE FACT THAT THEY'RE
STILL
2 CANADIANS. I I WERE IN IN
CHINA RIGHT NOW WAS RELEASED I
MUCH WANTED OBVIOUSLY BY THE
GOVERNMENT
OF CANADA. SO WE KNOW THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALLIES WILL
BE INTERESTED IN WORKING
TOGETHER WITH THE PRESIDENT OF
COURSE SOME OF THESE COMPANIES
THEMSELVES
ARE FACING. AGE OF THE YOU KNOW
THE TRUMP TRADE WAR AND MOST
INTERESTED IN CHANGING THAT
BALANCE AGAIN AND CHANGE SOME
OF THOSE THE CALCULATION THERE
AGAIN OF THE EQUATION
RATHER AGAIN NOW THEY WILL
QUESTION IS WHAT DO THE
ULTIMATE USE THE ALLIES TO
PRESSURE CHINA BUT TO WHAT END
AND IN THAT OF COURSE WE ARE WE
MAY SEE THAT NOT ALL
IN PRISON. CLEARLY A LIE ALL
THE TIME TO THE SPECIFICS ARE
GOING TO BE VERY VERY IMPORTANT
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY
HOPING TO SEE SOME MOR