>> WELCOME BACK TO CHEDDAR
BUSINESS ATTORNEYS GENERAL
WILLIAM BARR CRITICIZING APPLE
FOR REJECTING A REQUEST TO
UNLOCK 2 IPHONES BELONGING TO
THE GUNMAN WHO WENT ON A
RAMPAGE AT A NAVAL AIR STATION
IN PENSACOLA FLORIDA
LAST MONTH. APPLE HAS PROVIDED
DATA FROM THEM AND I CLOUD
ACCOUNT BUT SO FAR HAS REFUSED
TO HELP YET I UNLOCK THE
IPHONES FOR MORE ON THIS.
LET'S BRING IN
SARAH MORRISON REPORTER AT RE
CODE AND CITY GURMAN REPORTER
AT THE WALL STREET JOURNAL US
AIR WANT TO START WITH YOU YOU
WROTE AN ARTICLE IN RE
CODE CALLED THE GOVERNMENT IS
ASKING APPLE AGAIN ON LIKE
IPHONES HERE'S WHY YOU SHOULD
CARE WHY SHOULD WE CARE.
>> BECAUSE IN THIS
CASE IT.
>> SUSPECTED TERRORISTS, BUT
YOU KNOW ONCE THEY GET THEIR
PERMISSION TO DO ONE THING OR
ACT JUST A ONE FO, YOU KNOW
THEY CAN THE A SLIPPERY SLOPE
THEY CAN USE IT FOR MORE PHONES
AND YOU KNOW GET YOURS.
>> SAVING DO YOU ANTICIPATE
THAT APPLE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL
AND MAINTAINING ITS POSITION
THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO DO THIS.
>> IT SAYS THAT IT HASN'T TOLD
OFFICIALS EITHER WAY WHETHER
ITS EMPLOYEES ARE ABLE TO GET
INTO THAT.
THIS AT THIS POINT THAT IS NOT
BUDGING IN YEARS THE JUST.
>> HAS ECHOES OF THE
2015 PARIS THAT PACK AND EARLY
2016 THE ONE IN SAN BERNARDINO
IN AND 2015 AND THE
IDEA THAT.
>> APPLE WOULD NOT BE LIKE THE
PRESSURE FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICIALS TO UNLOCK THE IPHONE
AND TAKE US BACK TO WHAT APPLE
DID THAT AND HOW IT COULD
INFORM WHAT APPLE ENDS UP DOING
NOW SAID.
>> THE GOVERNMENT
TRY TO FORCE IT TO FIND A
SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM AND
HELP GET
TO THE BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
ENSUING MONTHS IS THE CASE AND
I WAS THAT THE FBI WAS
ULTIMATELY ABLE TO READ IT SO
WAY INTO THE FOLD AND SO IT
KIND OF MADE THE ISSUE MOOT ARE
AND MINIMAL. THERE'S SOME COLD
WATER I THINK ON THE ENCRYPTION
DEBATE, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE.
>> WHY SHOULD CONSUMERS CARE
ABOUT THIS.
>> AGAIN BECAUSE I'M NOT
ONLY BECAUSE IT COULD YOU KNOW
HOW GOVERNMENT TO GET INTO YOUR
FLOWN DEPENDING ON THE OUT.
BUT ALSO BECAUSE APPLE HAS IF
WE ARE MADE TO CREATE A BACK
DOOR INTO OUR PHONES FOR THIS
CASE THAT COULD ALSO MAKE OUR
PHONES MORE VULNERABLE TO
HACKERS WHO CAN YOU KNOW USE
THAT BACK DOOR TO GET YOUR
PHONE AS WELL.
>> ALSO WONDER FOR CONSUMERS
WANT TO BUY AN IPHONE RIGHT TO
FEEL SOME LEVEL OF PROTECTION
FROM THE COMPANY APPLE ITSELF,
BUT IT DOES STAND UP TO
THE GOVERNMENT AND THEIR DAY IS
MORE PROTECTED AND THEY JUST
THEY JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S IN
SAFER HANDS.
>> EXACTLY I DO A PREMIUM THAT
YOU GET WITH APPLE PRODUCTS AND
SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY A LOT
OF
CONSUMERS VALUE IS THAT THEY
SAY THEIR PHONES AND THEIR
PRODUCTS ARE SECURE MORE SECURE
THAN MAYBE OTHERS. AND THIS IS
YOU KNOW ONE WAY
THAT THAT IS ANY APPLE IS ALSO
SAID YOU KNOW THE CORRUPTION IS
IMPOSSIBLE FOR TO
TO BREAK. INCLUDING LIKE WE
HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL
FOR EVEN US TO DO THAT. SO THAT
IS ANOTHER YOU KNOW EXAMPLE OF
YOU KNOW HOW DIFFICULT THESE
PHONES OF THEIR PRODUCTS FOR
ANYBODY TO
GET INTO.
>> I DO ANTICIPATE THIS STORY
PLAYS OUT BECAUSE OF GETTING
BACK TO WHAT HAPPENED IN 2015
ULTIMATELY IN 2016 THE FBI DID
PAY HACKERS MORE THAN A MILLION
DOLLARS TO BREAK INTO THE SAN
BERNARDINO SHOOTER'S IPHONE
RIGHT OUT OF THIS PLAY OUT.
>> GO A LOT OF WAYS I WOULD
ASSUME
THAT WHATEVER THE HACKER WAS
ABLE TO EXPLOIT A
VULNERABILITY. THAT
GOT IN THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT
AVAILABLE TO THEM ANYMORE IT'S
DOING TO FIX IT. IT'S ALSO 4
YEARS LATER THE PHONES I'VE
ASSUMED JUST UPDATED
MORE SECURE. SO I'M YOU KNOW
IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT THIS WILL
END UP BEING THE ACTUAL LIKE
COURT BATTLE THAT WE THOUGHT IT
MIGHT BE
4 YEARS AGO.
>> CITY IT'S INTERESTING
BECAUSE APPLE SAID IN A LENGTHY
STATEMENT THAT IT DID PROVIDE
ON MULTIPLE PATIENTS, THE US
GOVERNMENT WITH A LOT OF
INFORMATION INCLUDING I
CLOUD BACKUPS AMONG OTHER
ELEMENTS ON HERE, I GUESS WHAT
INFORMATION IT.
APPLE BEEN ABLE TO GET OVER TO
THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE KNOW OF
ONE IT COULD BE GLEANED FROM
SOMETHING LIKE AN EYE. AP UP
AND AS THE GOVERNMENT.
WE CAN GET A LOT MORE
INFORMATION.
>> THE GOVERNMENT IS SAYING
THAT BASICALLY THE INFLATION I
WROTE A
MINIMAL OR USELESS OR NOT
EXACTLY WHAT IT IS LOOKING FOR
WHAT IT WANTS
OUR LIFE ENCRYPTED
COMMUNICATIONS ON HIS OWN MAYBE
IF HE WAS USING SOMETHING LIKE
SIGNAL OR WHATSAPP.
THE SUBSTANTIAL ASSISTANCE THAT
THEY NEED SO THEY SAY THEY'RE
NOT GETTING HELP FROM THIS
PARTICULAR FRONT EVEN IF APPLE
IS BEING CORPORATE OF ANOTHER.
>> WHAT IS THAT I WROTE HERE A
CITY THAT APPLE NEEDS TO WALK
BECAUSE WE DID SEE AT THE END
OF LAST YEAR PRESIDENT TRUMP
GETTING VERY CLOSE TO TIM COOK
AND UP PARTLY AS A RESULT I
THINK TIM COOK AND APPLE WERE
ABLE TO AVOID TARIFFS ON THE
MOST IMPORTANT PRODUCT THAT
THEY MAKE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S
THAT I WROTE THAT THAT THAT TIM
COOK AND APPLE HAVE TO WALK
WHEN DEALING WITH A PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
>> WELL I THINK YOU KNOW IT
LIKE SARAH SAID.
ITS BUSINESS MODEL HAS BEEN
MARKETING ITS PRODUCTS BASED ON
THEIR HIGH LEVEL OF SECURITY
AND SO I EAT WHAT'S MAINTAIN
THAT STANCE, BUT THE ATTORNEYS
GENERAL HAS SIGNALED THAT HE'S
WILLING TO BUT MORE DIRECT
CONFRONTATION WITH THE COMPANY.
AND SO THAT COULD PUT IT TO YOU
KNOW TENSION JEOPARDY, LEGAL
DEPENDING ON HOW PARTIES WANT.
>> I GUESS DO WE THINK THAT
THIS IS GOING TO BE A REPEAT OF
2016 APPLE WILL PREVAIL.
>> WELL DIDN'T NECESSARILY
PREVAILED LAST TIME THE CASE
JUST WAS DROPPED FROM THE
GOVERNMENT WAS ABLE TO ACCESS
THE PHONE IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO YOU KNOW IT REALLY DEPENDS
ON IF THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT
AND IF NOT
YOU KNOW, AGAIN WE'LL SEE WHAT
HAPPENS IN COURT AND I COULDN'T
TELL YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW ONE WAY